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Old 09-10-2013, 16:39   #21
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I don't need a ccw permit by virture of my l.e. credentials, however I do get one anyway to show support for my local sheriff. which reminds me, mine expired 4 days ago, must get it renewed soon.
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Old 09-10-2013, 18:03   #22
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Old 09-10-2013, 18:52   #23
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Even if he mostly never uses it, it seems that having the permit just in case he may want to use it sometime would be the better choice.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:15   #24
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:35   #25
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If he is pro 2a, he should get a permit even if he has no intention of carrying. He will be adding to the number of permit holders, and thus he will be taking a position.
Even if his wife is anti carry, there usually are places where even anti carry people feel safer with a handgun. Downtown restaurants (depending on the city) at night, camping, road trips, etc.
I agree. Your friend should also try to convince his wife to get her CCW. If he has a CCW and for some reason he gets injured and she needs to take possession of the gun, then she will be able to legally CCW until she gets home with the gun. Especially if they're on vacation in another state.

CCW's are cheap, lawyers are expensive.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:40   #26
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It is best to get your CCW unless you like ending up in court spending hundreds or may be even thousands on a defense lawyer. My days of taking unnecessary risks are long gone.
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Old 09-11-2013, 13:22   #27
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What do you think of the following?

I had a chat with a friend of mine about getting a CCW permit. His response is "why bother."

Well,that's odd .I ask for clarification and he says this: he works at an office which bans CCW,takes a class at a college which prohibits firearms on campus property including the parking lot,and he shares a car with his wife who works at a government building .Considering he spends most of his waking hours in gun free zones, a CCW permit would only entitle him to carry at home anyways-hence,why bother.

I couldnt refute any of his points .What say you all?
He has the same attitude as the people that flock to the gunshop when the rioting starts only to find the authorities have banned the sale of guns.

Get it before you need it.

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Old 09-13-2013, 16:43   #28
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Well if that is all the man does in life.. I guess a permit may not afford him much in the way of extra ability. One the other hand, most people have a life outside of work and school.
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He is a defeatist. I would stop associating with him.
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:34   #30
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My office is gun-free, I spend a lot of time on government property for my job. My wife runs a child care center, suffice to say gun free too.

I carry everywhere else.

You can try to discuss with your friend, but if he objects, he doesn't care and you won't forcibly change his mind. When a bad guy shows up in his face, it's your right not to care either and use your firearm effectively to ensure your withdrawal from the situation.
Your signature indicates Houston. I know of no gun laws here in TX that ban carry in a day care unless it's posted with a properly worded and formatted 30.06 sign. Even if it were, since your wife runs it, as you indicate, she can simply write you a notarized letter giving you permission to disregard that posting (if it existed).

Unless I am mistaken, and if I am someone please show me how I am... day cares are not schools, and therefore do not fall under the school gun free zone rules in TX
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Old 09-16-2013, 13:27   #31
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Your signature indicates Houston. I know of no gun laws here in TX that ban carry in a day care unless it's posted with a properly worded and formatted 30.06 sign. Even if it were, since your wife runs it, as you indicate, she can simply write you a notarized letter giving you permission to disregard that posting (if it existed).

Unless I am mistaken, and if I am someone please show me how I am... day cares are not schools, and therefore do not fall under the school gun free zone rules in TX
A childcare center is a school according to the state.

They do not require a 30.06, but they do politely post a reminder that its a felony.

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Texas Penal Code 46.03 just says "on the physical premises of a school or educational institution"

Texas Penal Code 46.11(c)(2) "School" means a private or public elementary school or secondary school.

Texas Education Code Title 2 Subtitle A Chapter 5
5.001 Definitions
(6-a) "Private school" means a school that:
(A) offers a course of instruction for students in one or more grades from prekindergarten through grade 12; and
(B) is not operated by a governmental agency.

Most childcare centers are a "Private school" that cover Pre-K curricula... And in my wife's case, absolutely Pre-K.

Not all cover Pre-K, so I think that is the only critical difference.

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Old 09-16-2013, 13:45   #32
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Lots of good reasons for getting a concealed carry licenses.

Here in Michigan we now have well over 414,000 CPL's issued.

Can you imagine how much effect that many voters could have in changing laws and/or electing pro gun candidates to office?

With MILLIONS of law-abiding citizens holding carry licenses, it won't long (just a bit of solidarity) until we'll be able to change things in D.C.
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Old 09-16-2013, 18:53   #33
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Vacation?
Day off?
Road trip?
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