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Old 07-06-2013, 13:42   #1
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BREAKING-Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crash

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06...ional-airport/

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Old 07-06-2013, 13:42   #2
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Boeing 777 Crashes at San Francisco Airport

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06...ional-airport/


http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/06/us/cal...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old 07-06-2013, 13:42   #3
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Plane crash at San Francisco International Airport

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Old 07-06-2013, 13:48   #4
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Old 07-06-2013, 13:51   #5
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Saw some pictures of the crashed plane taken by a passenger after he evacuated. Sounds like a lot of people did get off. The tail came off- don't know but maybe a nose-high landing possibly short of runway?
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Old 07-06-2013, 13:54   #6
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The tail came off- don't know but maybe a nose-high landing possibly short of runway?
I'm sure it's not the first time there's been a rough tail hit in San Francisco...
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:00   #7
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That plane certainly came in contact with the runway well before it should have-- the debris trail begins immediately. Hopefully there are not fatalities and/or serious injuries.
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:07   #8
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Parts of the tail are floating in water just before the runway starts.
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:17   #9
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pilot came in to low hit the rocks and start of runway

someone reported everyone got out . which is amazing if true
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:22   #10
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Hopefully that is true - that everyone made it off ok.
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:23   #11
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The shots from the helicopter sure look like the pilot hit the leading edge of the runway right at the waters edge.


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Old 07-06-2013, 14:48   #12
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The shots from the helicopter sure look like the pilot hit the leading edge of the runway right at the waters edge.


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Yes that seems what happened- hit there with tail which then broke off. Report said the plane then slid down the runway and did a 360 degree spin before stopping.
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Old 07-06-2013, 14:56   #13
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I was supposed to be enroute to SF airport when it happened. Inlaws were diverted back to Reno.
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This incident highlights the problem with eyewitness testimony. CNN interviewed a guy who saw the crash. He said the wings broke off and the plane cartwheeled. I am sure that is what he thought he saw, but pictures of the plane post crash clearly show those things didn't happen.
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:15   #15
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This incident highlights the problem with eyewitness testimony. CNN interviewed a guy who saw the crash. He said the wings broke off and the plane cartwheeled. I am sure that is what he thought he saw, but pictures of the plane post crash clearly show those things didn't happen.
I think it would be great to couple that "eyewitness" statement (not "testimony" BTW) with the pictures as a permanent example of the reliability of witness statements.
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I wonder if the fatalities are members of the flight crew.
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I think it would be great to couple that "eyewitness" statement (not "testimony" BTW) with the pictures as a permanent example of the reliability of witness statements.
Hear hear.

Pure speculation, I am guessing a problem on approach / final (electrical fire?) And pilot was just able to make the runway...

Total blather on CNN, as per sop
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:39   #19
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Looks like a ramp strike. Could the left engine be in the water?
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:41   #20
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I'm sure it's not the first time there's been a rough tail hit in San Francisco...
I see what you did there..........
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:46   #21
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One report saying 1 body was found in the water by uscg. That was unofficial report.
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:47   #22
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The 777 has an auto land feature........looks an awful lot like a failure.
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:52   #23
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Hope everyone is ok.

On a lighter note, let me cover the future posts of GT conspiracists.

Obviously, it flew from Korean airspace without a tail and the left engine. The event was staged to cover this up. Obama staged this after learning that a North Korean Mig shot off the engine and tail in order to start the next Korean War. The even had the Illuminati apparatchik on board ( present on all commercial flights ) to ignite the cabin with thermite charges after landing to destroy any iPads with evidence of the Mig.

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Old 07-06-2013, 15:59   #24
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Watching the NTSB press conference. Did the PIO really just use the phrase, "Hit the ground running"?
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Old 07-06-2013, 15:59   #25
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Airport FD does not get alot of real world experience, they train, and train. Met the head of the FSO FD a ways back, first class outfit. I'm sure they saved lives.
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