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Old 06-26-2013, 02:05   #21
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The Mod0 being for barriers must be the reason the permanent cavity is so vanilla in bare gel. Gotta have a barrier to make the bullet yaw and transfer energy. How the jacket sheared off I guess depends on how well the lead held onto it. Looked like the lead didn't hold onto the jacket at all (not bonded) so it probably just dropped pieces off little by little.

If it were me I would rather have something like Hornady's TAP Barrier load which uses the GMX bullet. Goes through barriers and transfers energy better. Of course the treaties signed many years ago most likely prohibit the use of that bullet. It is why you don't sign stupid treaties.
The Barnes TSX 70gr loaded to 5.56NATO pressures (not .223) is supposed to be the shiznit, both for barriers as well as terminally.

The SOST is also known as the Mk318, right? From what I've heard the Marines like it.

I try to be diverse: part of my "rainy day" ammo stash---that I don't touch---is 200rds of the Silver State Armory 70gr TSX 5.56NATO, 200rds of Mk318/SOST, and 200rds of Mk262 (a mix of Mod 0 and Mod 1).
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:53   #22
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The Barnes TSX 70gr loaded to 5.56NATO pressures (not .223) is supposed to be the shiznit, both for barriers as well as terminally.

The SOST is also known as the Mk318, right? From what I've heard the Marines like it.

I try to be diverse: part of my "rainy day" ammo stash---that I don't touch---is 200rds of the Silver State Armory 70gr TSX 5.56NATO, 200rds of Mk318/SOST, and 200rds of Mk262 (a mix of Mod 0 and Mod 1).
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:16   #23
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The Barnes TSX 70gr loaded to 5.56NATO pressures (not .223) is supposed to be the shiznit, both for barriers as well as terminally.

The SOST is also known as the Mk318, right? From what I've heard the Marines like it.

I try to be diverse: part of my "rainy day" ammo stash---that I don't touch---is 200rds of the Silver State Armory 70gr TSX 5.56NATO, 200rds of Mk318/SOST, and 200rds of Mk262 (a mix of Mod 0 and Mod 1).
Correct.

I agree with most folks here---I wouldn't (and don't) use it for HD as a civilian with lots of ammo at my disposal but compared to M193 or 855 it seems to be a good choice for a lot of situations the military folks would find themselves in.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:29   #24
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I am being a bit of a wise guy. Just that the 5.56mm usually makes a bit more splash than demonstrated in this video.



Yep. Not pretty for the most .224 bullets, but in this case, I think it would keep going.

You want barrier blind performance? Then let's talk about solids. You want expansion? Let's talk about soft bullets. So what we have here is a soft touted as better because it behaves like a solid (or perhaps it's a mediocre solid with some resemblance to a soft bullet). The wonders of marketing.

Anyway, they got it going fast. That's about the best thing I can say for this bullet if this test is representative of how they all behave.


And the blocks look like they had a .45 ball round shot through them.

The problem with your 45 comparison is that it doesn't take into account the fact that there is no 45ACP OTM. You simply can't be high-speed and low-drag without an OTM designation.

FWIW, look for a 45 ACP round with an "OTM" designation in the near future. Get yourself some of that and some quadrail and your 45 will be a "good piece of kit".
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