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Old 06-23-2013, 09:54   #76
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LOL! You WILL fly JB's version of the flag, or he'll send his minions overto clarify what freedom really means!!
Oh no, not the soulless minions of orthodoxy
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:03   #77
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...and use government services/programs/infrastructure... while complaining about them.
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:05   #78
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You well know that everyone has their own definition of "freedom". These threads are mostly about some wanting the government to limit other's freedoms, so this is something that we (unfortunately) don't have in common.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:37   #79
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I definitely don't have a degree in communication, but I'll try to clear it up.

What are you scratching your head about?
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:18   #81
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A lot of men and women fought and died against enemies of this nation under the flag. Many were covered in the flag. And many rest in honored peace under it today. They gave you the right to fly it upside down or even burn it if you want to.

You guys are free to disrespect it all you want... even over petty politics. But... you're pretty much a joke to me.
Right -- just thinking about all those invasions they repelled from US soil under the 50-star flag brings a tear of patriotism to my eye.

The truth is, "You cannot invade the United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
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Right -- just thinking about all those invasions they repelled from US soil under the 50-star flag brings a tear of patriotism to my eye.

The truth is, "You cannot invade the United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
There, in glaring brilliance, is EXACTLY why the internal enemies are screaming and scheming to wrest your firearms from your not-yet-dead fingers.
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Old 06-23-2013, 16:17   #84
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I would hope that, even while we may not run this country in a way that would please everyone (or even follow The Constitution) that there would be some unreasonable, instinctive, illogical...I don't know...something in our core, that would make us love this country and, by consequence, the symbols that represent it, regardless of who's handling it's reins. It seems to me that there should be 'something' we hold dear for us to be considered a nation.
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You well know that everyone has their own definition of "freedom". These threads are mostly about some wanting the government to limit other's freedoms, so this is something that we (unfortunately) don't have in common.
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I definitely don't have a degree in communication, but I'll try to clear it up.

What are you scratching your head about?
I think I've put this in the proper context

Who wants the government to limit others freedoms?
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My 'bottom line' is: there's government and there's the country... when our government stops honoring and behaving according to the Constitution, it no longer will receive my love. Period. That allows me to love the country more than some class of morons who, for instance, will "pass a law so we can see what's in it".
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I think I've put this in the proper context

Who wants the government to limit others freedoms?
Okay, I see what happened.
When I wrote "these threads" I didn't mean 'this thread' nor 'these posts'.
That was in response to the suggestion that 'freedom' is what we have in common. What freedoms and liberties we think others should have are not common among all of us. That is the cause of many arguments in these threads (NOT THIS ONE). This thread isn't about that.
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