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Old 06-21-2013, 12:10   #1
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G36 Question

I'm interested in a subcompact 45acp carry piece, and the 36 appears to fill the bill real nicely. I hesitate because I've read online about cycling/reliability issues with this model. Have they been ironed out? Is there a particular generation to avoid in this model?

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Old 06-21-2013, 12:28   #2
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No issues to report with my gen3. I read all the same concerns you are probably seeing when researching a year and a half ago. At the time things seemed somewhat ironed out with this model I have not followed the issue since because i have experienced no issues. Good luck.

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Old 06-21-2013, 13:13   #3
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 06-21-2013, 13:47   #4
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1600 flawless rounds through my G36, reloads, cast lead, JHP's, FMJ's, you name it. eats them all. Not ONE single issue at all, and excellent accuracy, enough for deer at 50 yds...
(not suggesting for deer) just saying it's accuracy is plenty fine at that range to cleanly take deer.


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Old 06-21-2013, 14:06   #5
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If you shoot Hornady Critical Defense you will have NO problems. If you shoot hardball (230 gr FMJ at about 830 fps), you will have NO problems. If you try to shoot 200 gr lead semiwadcutters, you need to have a super firm grip but they will work. I need to add a little powder next time I reload, they are just too wimpy!

I also loaded some 230 gr FMJ to match NATO rounds and the gun was flawless. It is spectacular, in fact.

Like all plastic guns, you have to get ahold of it.

I put off buying a G36 for a couple of years because of all the complaints. I had a G21SF that worked well. Now I have both and I'm planning on a G39.

BTW, the G36 is a compact, not a sub-compact. The .45 sub-compact is the G39 and it shoots .45 GAP.

My preference is to add Talon Grips before I even bother to shoot.

I REALLY like the gun! I'll be installing night sights in the near future.

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Old 06-21-2013, 14:13   #6
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Had one since 2001, been flawless.
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Old 06-21-2013, 16:03   #7
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Man I shoot every kind of hollow point (almost) out there through mine with no issues. If it will shoot GD' s it will shoot anything...




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Old 06-21-2013, 16:11   #8
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I have not had any issues with my Gen 3 36. I actually qualified better with it then my 19 for my permit. I ran all kinds of ammo too, misc rounds found in my old truck, factory ball, and JHPs with no issues.
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Old 06-21-2013, 18:57   #9
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I'm interested in a subcompact 45acp carry piece, and the 36 appears to fill the bill real nicely. I hesitate because I've read online about cycling/reliability issues with this model. Have they been ironed out? Is there a particular generation to avoid in this model?

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There is only one generation available on the G36, and that is the Gen 3. Mine works flawlessly. Great pistol.
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Old 06-21-2013, 19:25   #10
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If you're looking for a true subcompact, I think you'll find the G36 a bit large.
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Old 06-21-2013, 19:27   #11
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If you're looking for a true subcompact, I think you'll find the G36 a bit large.
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XDs or G39.
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Old 06-21-2013, 19:33   #12
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I have over 6000 rounds of many types FMJ and many rounds of several types JHP's with no issues. I've had no issues with any components of the unit. I also have a 36 which I inherited, which has over 2000 rounds thru it with no issues.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:21   #13
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From ROing many GSSF matches I've seen shooters have more problems with the G36 than all other Glocks combined. When you factor in how seldom you see a G36 at a GSSF match that's pretty significant.
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XDs or G39.
Isn't the G39 slightly larger ?
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From ROing many GSSF matches I've seen shooters have more problems with the G36 than all other Glocks combined. When you factor in how seldom you see a G36 at a GSSF match that's pretty significant.
As i stated above, mine is flawless. i should have added that when my friend shoots it he always jams it with a stove pipe if i recall correctly. He does not grip it properly. This same friend also would jam my G27 that i used to own. He shoots his 9mm Glocks without jams.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:39   #16
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Isn't the G39 slightly larger ?
I think, but could be wrong, that it has a fat slide, just like that of the G30.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:51   #17
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I'm interested in a subcompact 45acp carry piece, and the 36 appears to fill the bill real nicely. I hesitate because I've read online about cycling/reliability issues with this model. Have they been ironed out? Is there a particular generation to avoid in this model?

Thanks!
DO IT!

G19 vs G30.... Your G36 slide will be the size of the G19 pictured on the left.
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Other than that it depends whether you want the single or double stack mag for the fatty .45 ACP.
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Old 06-22-2013, 10:56   #18
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Isn't the G39 slightly larger ?
Than what?

According to Glock, the 'overall' width of the G39 is the same as the G36.

The G21 and G30 have fat slides. The guns are 0.09" wider, overall, than the G36 or G39.

In fact, the G36 and G39 are the same width as the G17 or G26.

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Old 06-22-2013, 11:25   #19
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Than what?

According to Glock, the 'overall' width of the G39 is the same as the G36.

The G21 and G30 have fat slides. The guns are 0.09" wider, overall, than the G36 or G39.

In fact, the G36 and G39 are the same width as the G17 or G26.

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Not really. The 36 is something like .05 inches narrower than a G26. When it comes to the .45 GAP guns (37, 38, 39), their frames are the same as the G17 however the slide is thicker like the G20/21/30 guns. This is why the GAP guns require different holsters from G17 type guns.

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Isn't the G39 slightly larger ?
G39 is smaller but wider.
Same frame as the G26/27/33. The slide is the same width as the G30's. As wide as the widest part of the /26/27/33 frame.
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Old 06-22-2013, 12:18   #21
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Bought a new 36 this year.
It's shot about 250+ rounds of 230 gr. ammo mostly Ranger T and Hydra-shok, no problem.
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Not really. The 36 is something like .05 inches narrower than a G26. When it comes to the .45 GAP guns (37, 38, 39), their frames are the same as the G17 however the slide is thicker like the G20/21/30 guns. This is why the GAP guns require different holsters from G17 type guns.

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I got my numbers from Glock. While they show the 'overall' width, it may not be the slide that's causing it.

Or, their numbers could be bogus.

As measured, by me, the G21SF slide is 1.122" and the G36 slide is 1.112". I don't have a way to get a decent 'overall' width measurement. I expect the overall width to be controlled by the grip area and I can't really get a good measurement without removing the Talon grips.

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Old 06-22-2013, 13:21   #23
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The G36 is a nice compact-sized .45 ACP for folks who enjoy shooting .45's.

I never got around to picking one up because I have a similarly-sized .45 compact in my original S&W 4513TSW, which has a 3.75" barrel & uses 6-rd mags, versus the G36 which has a 3.78" barrel & uses 6-rd mags. If I want a smaller .45, I pull my CS45 out of the safe, with its 3.25" barrel.

Then, there's my 3.5" Colt OM.

Anyway, smallish .45's probably aren't for everybody. They're often described as requiring "more" of the shooter than larger models, meaning the smaller .45's can sometimes be "less tolerant" of shooter grip & shooting technique issues, and then there's the potential for the smaller .45's to also be less tolerant of ammo influences.

I know more happy G36 owners than unhappy owners. It may just be a coincidence, but the happier owners are more experienced shooters.

The last recent guy is another of our senior instructors, who is a die-hard 1911owner/shooter (who only grudgingly admits to also owning a USP 45 ), and he picked up a used G36 from several years ago. We ran several mag loads of our issued Rem 230gr HPJ GS load through it (before he even replaced any mag or the RSA), and it ran perfectly fine in both of our hands.

FWIW, I can think of a couple of Glock employees who own & carry G36's, and I doubt they'd do so if there were any inherent problems with the model.

If I were going to add yet another smallish .45 pistol to my current collection of 9 pistols chambered in .45 ... it would be a M&P 45c, and right after that would be a G36.
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Old 06-22-2013, 20:31   #24
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Another happy g36 owner here...no complaints. If its ever had a malfunction i cant recall it.
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Old 06-22-2013, 21:55   #25
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Glock 36/ Federal 230 gr. +P HST... flawless and very accurate.

Slim, 20 0z. Glock that performs like a 4.5" std. pressure .45 ACP. Fits in G19/G23 holsters too.

If it's too big - get a S&W Shield or Walther PPS .40.

Don't forget the "hornectomy".

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