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Old 06-11-2013, 19:49   #41
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Just cause your not in the know doesn't make it a fantasy. Keep following.........

Originally posted by ar15 site staff

"If you mean M4carbine it's owned by GandR Tactical (Grant Timberlake) and Bravo Company (Paul Buffoni) and run by Grant 'kicked off arfkom" Timberlake and Paul 'I got kicked off Arfkom too" Hotaling. Grant obviously is a Bravo Co dealer and Paul works for Alias Training and Security, which I think is owned by Bravo Company."


Barf com isn't exactly viewed as a "reputable" place to get all your information
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Old 06-11-2013, 20:49   #42
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Barf com isn't exactly viewed as a "reputable" place to get all your information
It's public info. For those that care (not the regulars here) can easily varify the info to see its correct.
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Old 06-11-2013, 21:50   #43
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I like Spikes always have. But every AR parts maker have bad parts every now and them. I also like 5.11 pants and plan on buying me a pair or two in about 20 years when I turn 60. Maybe I'll even buy a 5.11 vest. Lol!!
Most of them buy their parts from the same suppliers including Colt and BCM...
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Old 06-11-2013, 23:15   #44
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It's public info. For those that care (not the regulars here) can easily varify the info to see its correct.




I wasn't talking about who owns what.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:32   #45
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:21   #46
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I've got a PSA M4 that runs slick as a whistle. One thing they do that most manufacturers do not, is to replace (without question) parts that the customer screwed up. They did that for me, while I waited in the store. So in my opinion, the customer service is superior.

They have sold ammo at "just above" pre-panic prices routinely. I make it a habit to plan my trips into Columbia around opening time at PSA, so I can grab some ammo at reasonable prices.

I certainly wouldn't toss them out on their ear just because they sold some BCG's from another manufacturer, which turned out to be out-of-spec. If we abandoned every company that made a business error, who would we be buying from?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:37   #47
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Rick everyone knows that if you want to be the most elite ccw spec ops jsop seal beret operator you must only use bcm or colt! Everyone else is poo poo and the first time you fire any other ar it will blow up! Lmao!

Ps- I'm not knocking bcm or colt. Just making a joke.

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Old 06-12-2013, 09:24   #48
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Rick everyone knows that if you want to be the most elite ccw spec ops jsop seal beret operator you must only use bcm or colt! Everyone else is poo poo and the first time you fire any other ar it will blow up! Lmao!

Ps- I'm not knocking bcm or colt. Just making a joke.

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How true!

Post a question about what ar15 to buy for hunting coyotes. Reply buy a BCM middy. Post a question about a PSA product. Reply buy a BCM middy. Question about dedicated 22lr upper. Reply buy a BCM middy...
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:32   #49
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someone asks "who owns M4C?".....quote a drunk penguin

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Old 06-12-2013, 11:33   #50
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I certainly wouldn't toss them out on their ear just because they sold some BCG's from another manufacturer, which turned out to be out-of-spec. If we abandoned every company that made a business error, who would we be buying from?
The misleading lies were the thing that turned me off. Do some research.
Damned if I will send my hard earned dollars to a company that denies
the materials of their products, then eventually claims that the parts are from a vendor.

Be a man, take ownership of the eF up and own up to it! They did not do that.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:30   #51
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the only difference between BCM, Spikes and PSA is price and logos.. But BCM has more fanboys here and on M4C and a network spread out like a mod and photographer over at ar15..
Wrong, try again. The difference between BCM and PSA, is BCM cares about their customers and takes the time to put together their uppers correctly and ships them out promptly.

PSA may use quality parts, but they do not have the anywhere near same level of quality control and customer service as BCM does.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:41   #52
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Wrong, try again. The difference between BCM and PSA, is BCM cares about their customers and takes the time to put together their uppers correctly and ships them out promptly.

PSA may use quality parts, but they do not have the anywhere near same level of quality control and customer service as BCM does.
Ding!

Quality control makes a whole heap of difference. It's like saying that a bubba-built AR is just as good as a Noveske because Bubba used a Noveske barrel. It might be true, but it's highly unlikely.
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Ding!

Quality control makes a whole heap of difference. It's like saying that a bubba-built AR is just as good as a Noveske because Bubba used a Noveske barrel. It might be true, but it's highly unlikely.
+1. Problem is many people want a "high quality" AR but don't care if it actually is a POS--as long as it looks cool and has some big name brands on it.
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Old 06-12-2013, 13:38   #54
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+1. Problem is many people want a "high quality" AR but don't care if it actually is a POS--as long as it looks cool and has some big name brands on it.
The trick is knowing what brands produce quality, and who produces junk. PSA still seems to be suffering growing pains. First it was horrible CS, now their quality control seems to be slipping, even though their customer service has improved a little. Even so, they are better than companies like Roggio, DoubleStar, and Hesse/Vulcan.
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Awe come on.......Hesse/Vulcan have awesome CS!






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Old 06-12-2013, 16:44   #56
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Awe come on.......Hesse/Vulcan have awesome CS!






I haven't heard those names since the dark old days of the AWB, pre2K.
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[QUOTE=Cole125;20368742]Wrong, try again. The difference between BCM and PSA, is BCM cares about their customers and takes the time to put together their uppers correctly and ships them out promptly.
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PSA's customer service is as worthless as they come. I have an order for an upper placed 05-17. I have been unable to get any sort of truthful answer as to whay I have not received anything yet. PSA was quick to process my payment, but could care less on getting my product to me. In the past I have stood up for them, this upper will involve my last order to them.
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Well... I have a mixed experience with PSA. Ordered a lower receiver for $99 and it shipped fast and was perfect. Ordered a couple other normal components (LPK, BAD, etc.) and they arrived great and as expected.

I ordered a BCG from them in the madness. It was a mess. The gas key was MIM, the staking was HORRIBLE, which appeared attributed to the strength of the base metal and the method used - not sure. Also the cam pin was binding. I promptly returned it on their nickel and received full credit back with no questions asked. So - even though I was unhappy with the product, I am satisfied with how they treated me.

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Old 06-12-2013, 19:54   #59
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PSA's customer service is as worthless as they come. I have an order for an upper placed 05-17. I have been unable to get any sort of truthful answer as to whay I have not received anything yet. PSA was quick to process my payment, but could care less on getting my product to me. In the past I have stood up for them, this upper will involve my last order to them.
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PSA's customer service is as worthless as they come. I have an order for an upper placed 05-17. I have been unable to get any sort of truthful answer as to whay I have not received anything yet. PSA was quick to process my payment, but could care less on getting my product to me. In the past I have stood up for them, this upper will involve my last order to them.
PSA likes to sell product before they have it or before it is built. This may be what is holding up your upper.
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