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Old 06-10-2013, 18:41   #26
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You know what's funny. I was just reading a thread on m4carbine forum and a lot of guys were saying the same thing about Spikes. All Manufactures have some type of problems somewhere down the road with their parts.
from the few threads I have read on m4carbine it looks like they hate spikes as a company, not their products. maybe I havent read enough, but they sure do hate them some spikes over there.
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Old 06-10-2013, 20:18   #27
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You know what's funny. I was just reading a thread on m4carbine forum and a lot of guys were saying the same thing about Spikes. All Manufactures have some type of problems somewhere down the road with their parts.
M4carbine is owned by BCM and Grant (talk about conflict of interest). Of course they hate Spikes cause they are doing the exact same thing as BCM is doing- reverse engineering Colt.. They are the competition. Then PSA came along doing the exact same thing at a lower cost. They really hate PSA and been trying to ruin them ever since they started. IMO the only difference between BCM, Spikes and PSA is price and logos.. But BCM has more fanboys here and on M4C and a network spread out like a mod and photographer over at ar15..
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Old 06-10-2013, 20:33   #28
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Never have cared for Spikes much.
BCM is great quality and outstanding customer service.
I can not see how the heJJ you can even THINK PSA is an equal to BCM.
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Old 06-10-2013, 20:34   #29
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IMO the only difference between BCM, Spikes and PSA is price and logos..
Uhhh....no. Customer service alone puts BCM light years ahead of PSA. And before you call me a fanboy, I own two PSA rifles and zero BCMs.
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Old 06-10-2013, 20:38   #30
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From what I have seen here there are a lot of BCM supporters on GT as well. M4 being owned by BCM is comical though.

I bought in and got a BCM barrel for about 50$ more than a few similar ones out there. I am sure I won't be disappointed, but I'm also not sure I will ever know the difference.

I did not however, spring an extra 100$ for a BCM BCG. If my spikes ever ****s the bed then I will have learned my lesson.


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Old 06-10-2013, 21:11   #31
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M4carbine is owned by BCM and Grant (talk about conflict of interest). Of course they hate Spikes cause they are doing the exact same thing as BCM is doing- reverse engineering Colt.. They are the competition. Then PSA came along doing the exact same thing at a lower cost. They really hate PSA and been trying to ruin them ever since they started. IMO the only difference between BCM, Spikes and PSA is price and logos.. But BCM has more fanboys here and on M4C and a network spread out like a mod and photographer over at ar15..
PSA has done a pretty good job of ruining themselves with their less than stellar quality control and customer service.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:01   #32
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M4carbine is owned by BCM and Grant (talk about conflict of interest). Of course they hate Spikes cause they are doing the exact same thing as BCM is doing- reverse engineering Colt.. They are the competition. Then PSA came along doing the exact same thing at a lower cost. They really hate PSA and been trying to ruin them ever since they started. IMO the only difference between BCM, Spikes and PSA is price and logos.. But BCM has more fanboys here and on M4C and a network spread out like a mod and photographer over at ar15..
I would love to know where you came up with this fantasy from.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:15   #33
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I have bought several items from them, no bolts or bolt carriers though, and there shipping times were good but that was before all the insanity hit. Never had a problem with their lower parts kits either...now DPMS..well lets say I would never own a thing from them again.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:54   #34
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I would love to know where you came up with this fantasy from.
Just cause your not in the know doesn't make it a fantasy. Keep following.........

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"If you mean M4carbine it's owned by GandR Tactical (Grant Timberlake) and Bravo Company (Paul Buffoni) and run by Grant 'kicked off arfkom" Timberlake and Paul 'I got kicked off Arfkom too" Hotaling. Grant obviously is a Bravo Co dealer and Paul works for Alias Training and Security, which I think is owned by Bravo Company."
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:13   #35
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Just cause your not in the know doesn't make it a fantasy. Keep following.........

Originally posted by ar15 site staff

"If you mean M4carbine it's owned by GandR Tactical (Grant Timberlake) and Bravo Company (Paul Buffoni) and run by Grant 'kicked off arfkom" Timberlake and Paul 'I got kicked off Arfkom too" Hotaling. Grant obviously is a Bravo Co dealer and Paul works for Alias Training and Security, which I think is owned by Bravo Company."



and some where after the Aimless penguin posted that, he admitted to have been drinking....so how accurate is his statement/information?

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Who really cares and what difference does it make if Grant and possibly Paul are the owners of M4C ???

other dealers sell BCM stuff....are they part of the secret society of M4C owners too?





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Old 06-11-2013, 10:19   #36
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I don't care who owns M4carbine, G and R tactical, Palmetto state armory or anything else. I own a Palmetto rifle and a BCM. Both of my rifles are solid. I think you get more for your money with BCM not to mention their company is a pleasure to work with and thier workmanship is high end. Thats why I like doing business with them. I guess I am a fanboy, I like a quality product shipped to my door in 5-6 days after I lay down 550 bucks for it.

I used to wonder what all the fuss was about and kind of giggle when people recommended nothing but BCM. I ordered one and found out for myself what the hub bub was all about, they are rock solid rifles. I am not saying that PSA is complete junk, they certainly are not. Just one guys opinion.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:20   #37
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Jeez. BCM doesn't need M4C to demonstrate that they provide top quality, battle grade gear for a reasonable price. I've seen it first hand.
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Old 06-11-2013, 17:47   #40
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Just cause your not in the know doesn't make it a fantasy. Keep following.........

Originally posted by ar15 site staff

"If you mean M4carbine it's owned by GandR Tactical (Grant Timberlake) and Bravo Company (Paul Buffoni) and run by Grant 'kicked off arfkom" Timberlake and Paul 'I got kicked off Arfkom too" Hotaling. Grant obviously is a Bravo Co dealer and Paul works for Alias Training and Security, which I think is owned by Bravo Company."
Well then, that settles it. This evidence is irrisputable.
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Just cause your not in the know doesn't make it a fantasy. Keep following.........

Originally posted by ar15 site staff

"If you mean M4carbine it's owned by GandR Tactical (Grant Timberlake) and Bravo Company (Paul Buffoni) and run by Grant 'kicked off arfkom" Timberlake and Paul 'I got kicked off Arfkom too" Hotaling. Grant obviously is a Bravo Co dealer and Paul works for Alias Training and Security, which I think is owned by Bravo Company."


Barf com isn't exactly viewed as a "reputable" place to get all your information
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Barf com isn't exactly viewed as a "reputable" place to get all your information
It's public info. For those that care (not the regulars here) can easily varify the info to see its correct.
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Old 06-11-2013, 21:50   #43
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I like Spikes always have. But every AR parts maker have bad parts every now and them. I also like 5.11 pants and plan on buying me a pair or two in about 20 years when I turn 60. Maybe I'll even buy a 5.11 vest. Lol!!
Most of them buy their parts from the same suppliers including Colt and BCM...
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It's public info. For those that care (not the regulars here) can easily varify the info to see its correct.




I wasn't talking about who owns what.
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I've got a PSA M4 that runs slick as a whistle. One thing they do that most manufacturers do not, is to replace (without question) parts that the customer screwed up. They did that for me, while I waited in the store. So in my opinion, the customer service is superior.

They have sold ammo at "just above" pre-panic prices routinely. I make it a habit to plan my trips into Columbia around opening time at PSA, so I can grab some ammo at reasonable prices.

I certainly wouldn't toss them out on their ear just because they sold some BCG's from another manufacturer, which turned out to be out-of-spec. If we abandoned every company that made a business error, who would we be buying from?
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Rick everyone knows that if you want to be the most elite ccw spec ops jsop seal beret operator you must only use bcm or colt! Everyone else is poo poo and the first time you fire any other ar it will blow up! Lmao!

Ps- I'm not knocking bcm or colt. Just making a joke.

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Rick everyone knows that if you want to be the most elite ccw spec ops jsop seal beret operator you must only use bcm or colt! Everyone else is poo poo and the first time you fire any other ar it will blow up! Lmao!

Ps- I'm not knocking bcm or colt. Just making a joke.

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I certainly wouldn't toss them out on their ear just because they sold some BCG's from another manufacturer, which turned out to be out-of-spec. If we abandoned every company that made a business error, who would we be buying from?
The misleading lies were the thing that turned me off. Do some research.
Damned if I will send my hard earned dollars to a company that denies
the materials of their products, then eventually claims that the parts are from a vendor.

Be a man, take ownership of the eF up and own up to it! They did not do that.
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