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Old 05-14-2013, 04:40   #181
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My local large LGS is now consistently and reliably stocked with all calibers, and I've seen significant quantities of 9mm at the Wal-Mart closest to my work twice in the last two weeks. Take a deep breath, the situation is stabilizing.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:02   #182
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I will make a guess that by late Sept. or Oct. we should see some relief. I am just worred about the price when it ends.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:07   #183
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My local large LGS is now consistently and reliably stocked with all calibers, and I've seen significant quantities of 9mm at the Wal-Mart closest to my work twice in the last two weeks. Take a deep breath, the situation is stabilizing.

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Not really. While your location may be less gun/ammo intensive & therefor they have something to sell, is not reflective of the rest of the country. Even non gun friendly Kalif has little to nothing, but you can find stuff @ some specific stores. The idea it's getting better, just nothing to support it nationwide. Long lines, limited stock & higher prices. Again, expect no relief until 2014 & maybe not even then.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:33   #184
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Just hit another large store on lunch: stocked full of guns, ammo and high cap mags. This is by no means a low-demand area, these stores were all hosting massive lines and shortages during the height of the hysteria. Things are beginning to ease up now, we're seeing encouraging signs out here in the real world. My buddy as far across the country as one can be is reporting similar conditions, so this isn't isolated to one area of New England.


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Old 05-14-2013, 12:22   #185
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Went in to PSA in Columbia SC today. Plenty of 45, 223 and 10mm. No 9mm. Plenty of ARs on the shelf. Looks like things may be getting back to normal.
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Old 05-14-2013, 19:11   #186
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Went in walmart today after work. I was 6th in line. So, I'm not sure if it still bad, or if just everyone is catching on to the walmart schedule. The first 4 guys bought the 325 count federal bricks of 22LR, and the guy in front of me bought 3 100-count boxes of 9mm wwb. I would have bought the 9mm, but I have really been grabbing more of that lately, just because it was the best option to me. Today, I used my 3 box allotment for buying Remington .223 20-count boxes for $7.47. Yeah, I only capitalized on 60 rounds, but I really need to build my .223/5.56 stores up because I like to shoot it. That's only 2 mags, but I'd rather that than 300 more rounds of 9mm.

They also had about a half dozen each of 50-count Federal 9mm and .45. I'm also staying away from the Federal .45 because I'm not a fan of small pistol primer casings in .45. All of my existing brass uses lpp. I also saw some .380, but nobody really seemed interested. That is the second time I've seen it with nobody even interested. They did have some CCI 22 ammo in the plastic cases left. I know it's more expensive, but they had a case of 12 that nobody touched either.

I don't know if it is letting up, but it's good to see the ammo hitting the walmarts in the evenings on a fairly consistent basis. Even if the prime stuff does disappear before the line clears, you still have handgun ammo staying for a while. I'm sure they'll have handgun ammo to last until the morning.
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Old 05-14-2013, 19:14   #187
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BTW, I also checked walmart, the LGS, and Academy on Saturday, and it is still wiped out. I think it will be a LONG time before you see ammo on shelves during the prime time when you look for ammo while the wife shops. It is probably going to be at least a year before the sporting goods stores have 22LR in economy boxes on the shelves on a midday Saturday or Sunday.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:03   #188
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What I was trying to say was "I don't care, and I'm not sure anybody else does, either..." coupled with "why are you telling us this?"
I guess that you enjoy being rude and unfriendly.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:56   #189
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My local wally world had a boatload of .40, .380 and .45 ACP yesterday, and they're consistently restocking daily now.

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What time does walmart stock the shelves again? Morning or around the time everyone gets off work ?
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Old 05-16-2013, 20:06   #191
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Short answer, it wont. It is as cheap today as it will ever be. In case you haven't noticed we are at war. Our leader, via FEMA, ordered/purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, ordered/purchased 2700 armored vehicles, fast and furious cover up, releases thousands of deportable alien criminals amongst us, ordered/purchased 7,000 AR platform rifles, but they called them Personal Defense Weapons, not assault rifles, and now with Bengazi and the IRS and the AP scandals, we are doomed. I heard 35 states have pending lawsuits against the US government, and on top of all this pile of manure, we have a horrible economy. Almost as if history is about to repeat itself over state's rights. Our leader has amassed an armed, standing army, aka FEMA, just waiting on an order from above declaring martial law. Say your prayers and prepare to defend yourselves ladies and gentlemen. The game has changed.
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Old 05-16-2013, 20:17   #192
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Short answer, it wont. It is as cheap today as it will ever be. In case you haven't noticed we are at war. Our leader, via FEMA, ordered/purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, ordered/purchased 2700 armored vehicles, fast and furious cover up, releases thousands of deportable alien criminals amongst us, ordered/purchased 7,000 AR platform rifles, but they called them Personal Defense Weapons, not assault rifles, and now with Bengazi and the IRS and the AP scandals, we are doomed. I heard 35 states have pending lawsuits against the US government, and on top of all this pile of manure, we have a horrible economy. Almost as if history is about to repeat itself over state's rights. Our leader has amassed an armed, standing army, aka FEMA, just waiting on an order from above declaring martial law. Say your prayers and prepare to defend yourselves ladies and gentlemen. The game has changed.
I disagree.

Now, if you count prices seen next to an empty shelf space, you may be right. I don't see Walmart's prices coming down, ever, but then again how many of us can actually GET ammo at Walmart?

Using actual average price paid for ammo, or the price at which it actually stays in stock for more than 15 minutes, prices WILL be lower later this year/next year than they are right now.
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Old 05-16-2013, 23:03   #193
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I disagree.

Using actual average price paid for ammo, or the price at which it actually stays in stock for more than 15 minutes, prices WILL be lower later this year/next year than they are right now.
So you really think prices on anything not electronic are going to be cheaper next year, really? Based on what? The US $$ will be worth less next year than this year. When things get back to "normal" the ammo manuf will cut back so the supply won't be a whole lot better. Maybe we should bet a box of 9mm where the retail price of ammo will be this time next year?
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:50   #194
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So you really think prices on anything not electronic are going to be cheaper next year, really? Based on what? The US $$ will be worth less next year than this year. When things get back to "normal" the ammo manuf will cut back so the supply won't be a whole lot better. Maybe we should bet a box of 9mm where the retail price of ammo will be this time next year?
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Using actual average price paid for ammo, or the price at which it actually stays in stock for more than 15 minutes, prices WILL be lower later this year/next year than they are right now.
If you disagree with that would you like to wager?

Let's pick some of the more common ammunition types that people are shopping for right now:

5.56x45 M193 or XM193
9x19 115 grain FMJ, brass case
.22lr 550 round Federal Bulk packs

You go out and find the least expensive currently available example of each of these.

If I can find a noticeably less expensive example between a week from now and the end of next year, you owe me, oh I don't know, 100 rounds of brass case 9x19.

If I can't find such a thing, I'll send you 150 rounds of brass case 9x19.

To keep things simple, and to make absolutely sure we are reporting actually-available ammunition at the supposed price, I propose we keep this to ammunition available from any reputable online retailer.

As for what constitutes "noticeably less expensive", why don't we say 10%? That will be what I have find, the ammo for 10% less than it is right now.

What do you say?
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Ammo whole sale prices have not moved much in the last four years. I expect just as we see improved supply this year the gun grabbers will raise their ugly little Progressive Socialist heads and we will back spin again.
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Talking retail Warp, not what the oportunists are charging. Retail today is probably defined by most as waht they have to pay @ Wally. My LGS has always charged retail for ammo, nothing less. SO no, I don't see ammo being cheaper next year. Maybe cheaper than the LGS or what you can find on GB today, but not cheaper over all, prices will behigher on everything next year. It's called inflation.
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Actually Wal Mart normally sells their ammo just above whole sale price. That is why your LGS often can not compete against them.
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I haven't given into the ammo hunt/desperation thing since the panic began.
But today I took some time to hit some Walmarts and a local sporting goods store.
Apparently the walmart app is inaccurate?? App says Automatch in stock. Beat it across town this morning . . . no rimfire or pistol ammo of any kind. Plenty of .270 Win. Yee haw!

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I am glad I at least have an AK. Tula 7.62X39 seems to be available at decent prices . .

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Talking retail Warp, not what the oportunists are charging. Retail today is probably defined by most as waht they have to pay @ Wally. My LGS has always charged retail for ammo, nothing less. SO no, I don't see ammo being cheaper next year. Maybe cheaper than the LGS or what you can find on GB today, but not cheaper over all, prices will behigher on everything next year. It's called inflation.
I'm talking retail too.

Go find the least expensive currently available...retail...ammo for any of those three. Or anything else that is pretty common.

Using a price tag on an empty shelf is stupid and pointless. If you can't buy it because it isn't there it may as well be $1,00,000 per round.

I'm talking real world. Actuality. Available ammo.

What is the best price...RIGHT NOW.

Since we both threw it up as an example, let's go with factory (not reloaded) 9x19. Brass case.

Whatcha got?
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Ammo prices will come down when we elect a conservative GOPer into the WH
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