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Old 05-02-2013, 09:01   #61
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I would shoot +P+ out of a G26 on a limited basis. I would not shoot it out of a .40 S&W since that caliber doesn't even have a +P rating. Anything beyond SAAMI specs in a Glock .40 S&W is dangerous IMO.
I agree about .40. I've experienced a case rupture and don't care to repeat it.

But why would a steady diet of +P+ be a problem in a G26?
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:10   #62
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I purchased another Glock last week, G26 & was wondering IF it was safe to shoot Factory +P+ loads out of both my G23 & G26(Factory Glock Barrels). Both handguns are Gen4. Thanks in advance.
I have never heard of +p+ .40 S&W ammo, only 9x19.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:53   #63
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I agree about .40. I've experienced a case rupture and don't care to repeat it.

But why would a steady diet of +P+ be a problem in a G26?
what load was it, brass, bullet....
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Old 05-02-2013, 17:33   #64
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I would shoot +P+ out of a G26 on a limited basis. I would not shoot it out of a .40 S&W since that caliber doesn't even have a +P rating. Anything beyond SAAMI specs in a Glock .40 S&W is dangerous IMO.
SAAMI does not recognize 9mm +P+ either.
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what load was it, brass, bullet....
Buffalo Bore .40 "+P" from a 1911. The case ruptured at the web right at the ramp. The chamber wasn't fully supported so the fault was entirely mine. It destroyed a magazine floorplate but otherwise no damage done and lesson learned.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:13   #66
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But why would a steady diet of +P+ be a problem in a G26?
No but it would be unnecessary expense.

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SAAMI does not recognize 9mm +P+ either.
Which does not mean that companies are loading 9mm +P+ at 454 Casull pressures.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:46   #67
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Which does not mean that companies are loading 9mm +P+ at 454 Casull pressures.
Same applies for .40 +P and .380+P then. Companies made up the designation to sell ammo. Their own way of indicating a "hot" load to the consumer whom does not know the difference.
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Has anyone shot this ammo? http://www.underwoodammo.com/40sandw...ntboxof50.aspx Or Underwood ammo in general?
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I wonder what the MV is for the 9mm 115gr JHP +p+ is from a G17? My chronograph is down.
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Same applies for .40 +P and .380+P then.
Not quite.9mm +P+ has a 30 year track record of being used safely in modern pistols. 40+P and 380+P don't.
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Companies made up the designation to sell ammo. Their own way of indicating a "hot" load to the consumer whom does not know the difference.
Nope. 9mm pressure had been nudged down by SAAMI to prevent damage to old pistols of questionable strength and quality some of which had been chambered for lower pressure cartridges like 9mm Largo.

Police Depts demanded hotter 9mm ammo and Winchester, Federal and Remington responded by
1. providing the ammo,
2. designating the ammo as +P+,
3. having the Depts sign a waiver to get it and
4. not selling the ammo on the open market.

The process was similar to the introduction of the 38 Super except the Super was intended to be sold on the open market. Colt did not make up the Super designation to sell ammo. They called it 38 Super to differentiate it from the lower pressure 38 ACP and discourage its use in the weaker Colt 1900 pistols.
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