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Old 04-06-2013, 07:24   #26
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very nice wood on the top one..
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:02   #27
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very nice wood on the top one..
Thanks, that was my first the one I told the story about.

Here's a better pic of the three

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Old 04-06-2013, 15:33   #28
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mowed yards in '63 to raise the $20 ($17.50 plus $2.50 S&H)

Dad bought it through the NRA when they were decommissioned

It has "Winchester" stamped under the rear sight behind the serial #.

Feb-Nov 1944 build

Looks to have been built, stored, and never issued.

Shoots like new.


I paid happily $850 for one in the same condition a few years back.
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Old 04-06-2013, 17:44   #29
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Great story, and cool looking guns for sure. Would love to even fire one, one day. Just to get the "feel."
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Old 04-06-2013, 19:35   #30
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Great story, and cool looking guns for sure. Would love to even fire one, one day. Just to get the "feel."
I have shot a few. IMHO, it might have been the best all around battle implement of WWII. The Tommy was heavy, but dumped a lot of ammo into a target. The M1 Garand is a true rifle, but not the best CQC gun. If I were to have one gun form the beginning to the end of WWII in both theaters, it would be an M1 Carbine.


This being said, I don't own one. If someone wants to donate one or sell cheap to someone who will never part with it.....let me know.
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Old 04-07-2013, 19:21   #31
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The Carbine was my Wife's favorite.
Her shooting it some years back.
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A frend shooting one of my guns. The gun always brings a smile to the shooter's face.

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Old 04-08-2013, 13:21   #32
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Shoots pretty good.

My excuses are stiff trigger (original, military trigger feels 10+lbs), and high wind.

Oh, and old eyes behind trifocals. :o

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Old 04-08-2013, 13:26   #33
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Shoots pretty good.

My excuses are stiff trigger (original, military trigger feels 10+lbs), and high wind.

Oh, and old eyes behind trifocals. :o

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Kind of puts the BS on the old "everybody knows carbines a only good for 6" groups at 100 yards" doesn't it?

That was the conventional wisdom back in the 70's and at least early 80's. It specifically made me a skeptic about what "everyone knows".
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Old 04-08-2013, 13:33   #34
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Kind of puts the BS on the old "everybody knows carbines a only good for 6" groups at 100 yards" doesn't it?

That was the conventional wisdom back in the 70's and at least early 80's. It specifically made me a skeptic about what "everyone knows".
Wait till I get a little practice and reload some ammo for it.

Well, after I get my glasses readjusted.

And the wind dies.

And.....and.....
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Old 04-08-2013, 23:49   #35
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Yeah, times have changed! I remember seeing at the Woolworth in North Miami Beach that had racks full of them when I bought a stroller for my son. I think they were $120, or so.
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Old 04-08-2013, 23:57   #36
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Fun thread! My first M1 Carbine experience was cat hunting with my uncle in about 8th grade (early 70's). He had a WWII M1 Carbine and I carried it that day in the snowy mountains of northeastern WA.

Towards the end of the day I got to shoot it a few times. I was in love and vowed to own one.

Later along I was at a gun show, and actually bought some magazines still in the paper wrapper, surplus stuff. Didn't have the rifle but that's how sure I was that I'd get one.

Ended up buying one of the Iver Johnson jobs new in the 80's for about 325 bucks I think. Still have it, reload for it, still love it.

When I'm rich I might end up with an authentic vintage one.

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Old 04-09-2013, 09:00   #37
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These are assault weapons to Obama, right?
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:21   #38
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Nothing, to me, points as naturally and instinctively than an M1 Carbine. Everyone should own one. If someone was to make me chose just one of the different types of rifles I own to keep as my main and basic self defense, all purpose around the house rifle I think this would win out.

Yours is a particularly nice example. The stock markings are what everyone dreams of. But these days they are restamping them (faking) so you gotta be careful. Having found yours before that was even thought of is about the only way to be sure.

I have a Quality Hardware thats a bit of a typical mutt. Some Rockola and Some IBM inside in a M2 style stock. A great shooter.

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Yours is a particularly nice example. The stock markings are what everyone dreams of. But these days they are restamping them (faking) so you gotta be careful. Having found yours before that was even thought of is about the only way to be sure.
thanks, I didn't know they were important

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Anyone know what the sling markings mean?
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Old 04-10-2013, 13:39   #40
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Anyone know what the sling markings mean?
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IIRC "MRT" means "Mildew Resistance Treated"
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Thanks for the info.

Here's how it came out of the box:

Bolt looks kinda blue compared to all the "green" parts:
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According to my info the bolts were blued not parkerized.


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Old 04-10-2013, 15:05   #42
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According to my info the bolts were blued not parkerized.


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That's correct. The bolt on this one is blue and the parkerizing has turned a shade of green.
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Old 04-12-2013, 21:49   #43
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The original parkerized finish on a Winchester is generally darker than most other USGI carbines, some of the early Winchesters are a dark gray, almost black. They tend to pickup that green hugh over time.

I have several Winchesters in my collections, for some reason they seem to be my favorite of the USGI carbines.

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Old 04-12-2013, 21:53   #44
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I was told that the Green hue is stained into the parkerizing by the Cosmoline that they were packed in to protect them in shipment and storage. I don't know how true that is.
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Thanks for the info.

Here's how it came out of the box:

Bolt looks kinda blue compared to all the "green" parts:
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You have a type II barrel band and a flat top bolt. The transission time from the type I to the type II barrel band, and from the round top to the flat top bolt is around the middle of 1944.

Your rifle's serial number should be no earlier than April 1944. Generally speaking M1 carbine manufacturers tried to keep 90 days worth of parts on hand in case there were shortages, so there should be a three month 'window' of what got installed when.
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Very cool. That would be the equivalent of paying $200 today, which I'd do in a heartbeat.
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The original parkerized finish on a Winchester is generally darker than most other USGI carbines, some of the early Winchesters are a dark gray, almost black. They tend to pickup that green hugh over time.

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Nice collection....
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