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Old 03-28-2013, 17:31   #21
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I don't know much about semi-autos, but between an AR-15 platform .223 or a Mini-30, which one would be better? My two concerns are:

Which ammo is cheaper?
Which ammo is easier to get?
The AR is a better rifle - more parts and magazines available, less prone to break, and the ammo is easier and cheaper to find (other than some imported crap). The 7.62x39 will only be better if you are going to deer hunt with it and, considering the accuracy of Ruger Mini-30's, I wouldn't..
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Old 03-31-2013, 13:59   #22
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The AR is a better rifle - more parts and magazines available, less prone to break, and the ammo is easier and cheaper to find (other than some imported crap). The 7.62x39 will only be better if you are going to deer hunt with it and, considering the accuracy of Ruger Mini-30's, I wouldn't..
Wow- two out of three bad lol...

Ill take an AK over an AR any day, especially for the reliability and ammo availability
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Old 03-31-2013, 18:15   #23
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Wow- two out of three bad lol...

Ill take an AK over an AR any day, especially for the reliability and ammo availability
What are you talking about? Ammo availability?

http://armsbot.com/ammo/223-556
http://armsbot.com/ammo/308-762x51
Haven't added 7.62X39 yet and sold out everywhere.

There is actually more of the 223/5.56 available than the 308/7.62x51 or 7.62X39. Just these retailers are gouging the crap out of their prices.

As for the availability, yes across seas you may see it more available since everyone else in the world is using 7.62X39 but availability here to buy, the 5.56 seems more available.

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As for reliability, they both are reliable. Just both have their own special needs and limitations. If you want to spray and pray, take the AK. If you want accuracy, AR.

It's nice to have an all American rifle and a lot of the parts are manufactured right here in America.

I have to say that the AK is a great weapon, just not for me. I'd rather have accuracy, reason why I recommend the Remington 700. Carrying less rounds means accuracy is important.

5.56 you can carry more rounds and magazines on ones person rather than half the amount going with the 7.62x51/7.62X39 unless you are built like Arnold.
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Old 03-31-2013, 20:49   #24
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There is actually more of the 223/5.56 available than the 308/7.62x51 or 7.62X39. Just these retailers are gouging the crap out of their prices.

As for the availability, yes across seas you may see it more available since everyone else in the world is using 7.62X39 but availability here to buy, the 5.56 seems more available.
Maybe where you are at but not where I am at. Local shops got in and kept in stock 7.62x39 far better than .223 or 5.56. The .223/5.56 sells out first. My local Cabelas had around 10k rounds of 7.62x39 on the shelf when there was no .223/5.56. It was $5.99-$6.49 per20 in Jan but has since went up some. Had me thinking I need to pick up a 7.62x39 upper for my AR just in case.

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Old 03-31-2013, 20:58   #25
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Maybe where you are at but not where I am at. Local shops got in and kept in stock 7.62x39 far better than .223 or 5.56. The .223/5.56 sells out first. My local Cabelas had around 10k rounds of 7.62x39 on the shelf when there was no .223/5.56. It was $5.99-$6.49 per20 in Jan but has since went up some.
I guess we can't argue location in the USA . As for availability, the 7.62x39 will be more available as I had mentioned since the entire world uses AK's. I do like the ability to carry more rounds.

Just the ridiculous price of these rifle rounds just suck. I was happy when I got 200 green tips for .60 cents each... Now they are over $1.00 per round? Crazy.
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Old 03-31-2013, 22:06   #26
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Cabelas, Gander Mountain and local stores have had a steady flow of 7.62x39 at around $.40/round. The cost of AK based rifles is still a fraction of AR based rifles. I would recommend that a first time buyer go with 7.62x39. Few people regularly shoot over 300 yards and any AK will shoot decent out to that range. Any AK is accurate enough to hunt deer at 200+ yards. The round has similar ballistics to a .30-30.
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Old 04-03-2013, 22:49   #27
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What are you talking about? Ammo availability?

http://armsbot.com/ammo/223-556
http://armsbot.com/ammo/308-762x51
Haven't added 7.62X39 yet and sold out everywhere.

There is actually more of the 223/5.56 available than the 308/7.62x51 or 7.62X39. Just these retailers are gouging the crap out of their prices.

As for the availability, yes across seas you may see it more available since everyone else in the world is using 7.62X39 but availability here to buy, the 5.56 seems more available.

OP

As for reliability, they both are reliable. Just both have their own special needs and limitations. If you want to spray and pray, take the AK. If you want accuracy, AR.

It's nice to have an all American rifle and a lot of the parts are manufactured right here in America.

I have to say that the AK is a great weapon, just not for me. I'd rather have accuracy, reason why I recommend the Remington 700. Carrying less rounds means accuracy is important.

5.56 you can carry more rounds and magazines on ones person rather than half the amount going with the 7.62x51/7.62X39 unless you are built like Arnold.
I don't know. The least expensive .223 ammo shown on ArmsBot was at .72 / round. I can still buy 7.62X39 all day long right now for .30 to .35 per round. Of course you need to add freight to both.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:31   #28
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I guess I'm wrong. Well I do agree that the AK47 are usually cheaper to buy. It's probably bc they are usually manufactured in other countries. Building your own AR15 is fun though if your a hobbyist. Plus I try my best to buy US made stuff.
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