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Old 03-27-2013, 17:37   #201
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What's so funny? You're a slave to your own delusions about human nature. Your world only exists inside that extremist head of yours. I pity you. And I say that being 100% serious... I'm not angry with you, it depresses me knowing there are people like you out there... living sad existences, stepping on people to get ahead.

I sleep like a baby everynight with my conscience. Knowing I didn't let the rat race claim my soul.

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Old 03-27-2013, 17:40   #202
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What's so funny? You're a slave to your own delusions about human nature. Your world only exists inside that extremist head of yours. I pity you. And I say that being 100% serious... I'm not angry with you, it depresses me knowing there are people like you out there... living sad existences, stepping on people to get ahead.

I sleep like a baby everynight with my conscience. Knowing I didn't let the rat race claim my soul.

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Old 03-27-2013, 17:44   #203
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Well tell us please...
In your understanding what enabled us to crawl out of that slime?


And please tell me this:
Have you ever created a product and taken it to market?

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Irrigation and farming. Not to mention a highly developed frontal lobe.

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...The sad thing with extremists is, those two extremes are the only thing that exist in their head. There is no middle ground with them.
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Do you suppose it's possible that to bring a product like say, fiber optic cable to market (enabling us to have this discussion over the 'net) a little extremism is perhaps necessary?




Do you think that a farmer gets his crop to market by being concerned with anything other than the wellbeing of he and his family?

If he can't depend on the free market to reward that self-interest, do you think you're going to be able to count on groceries being on the shelf at your local market when you need them?

What do you believe motivates people to make the sacrifices that result in the products you want and need being available if it isn't pure self-interest? I mean really, do you believe that the market cares at all about you personally?

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Old 03-27-2013, 17:46   #204
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That laughter is funny coming from a guy who wants to liquidate the Social Security fund and put it in the general budget or falsely claiming it doesn't exist, (despite the fact that it is still solvent for a few more years), kind of like the EU and the Govt of Cyprus are raiding private ban accounts.

I guess if the Social Security fund is taken and redistributed for the good of whole society that isn't socialism?
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That laughter is funny coming from a guy who wants to liquidate the Social Security fund and put it in the general budget or falsely claiming it doesn't exist, (despite the fact that it is still solvent for a few more years), kind of like the EU and the Govt of Cyprus are raiding private ban accounts.

I guess if the Social Security fund is taken and redistributed for the good of whole society that isn't socialism?
You are extremely confused sir...
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That laughter is funny coming from a guy who wants to liquidate the Social Security fund and put it in the general budget or falsely claiming it doesn't exist, (despite the fact that it is still solvent for a few more years), kind of like the EU and the Govt of Cyprus are raiding private ban accounts.

I guess if the Social Security fund is taken and redistributed for the good of whole society that isn't socialism?
Don't worry. The teat will be there for you. It may be a bit chapped by the time you reach it, but it'll be there.

Here's hoping yours is toward the front!
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Do you suppose it's possible that to bring a product like say, fiber optic cable to market (enabling us to have this discussion over the 'net) a little extremism is perhaps necessary?

Do you think that a farmer gets his crop to market by being concerned with anything other than the wellbeing of he and his family?

If he can't depend on the free market to reward that self-interest, do you think you're going to be able to count on groceries being on the shelf at your local market when you need them?

What do you believe motivates people to make the sacrifices that result in the products you want and need being available if it isn't pure self-interest? I mean really, do you believe that the market cares at all about you personally?

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Self-gain is what motivates people... no one is arguing otherwise. At what point did debating the ethics of scalping ammo become a... "Omg an attack on capitalism."

I mean it's a good way to get people on your side, don't get me wrong. Especially those who don't take the time to read the entire thread, and don't realize no one ever attacked free-enterprise or capitalism.
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Self-gain is what motivates people... no one is arguing otherwise. At what point did debating the ethics of scalping ammo become a... "Omg an attack on capitalism."

I mean it's a good way to get people on your side, don't get me wrong. Especially those who don't take the time to read the entire thread, and don't realize no one ever attacked free-enterprise or capitalism.
You're very young aren't you?
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You're very young aren't you?
Scalping ammo is a shady practice. They are not champions of capitalism.... which is what you and CF are making them out to be. No more or less shady then the guy standing outside of a concert wearing sunglasses and a hoodie.... "psst... you looking for tickets? Gonna cost you."

I'm 25.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:06   #210
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You're very young aren't you?
The phrase "nailed it" springs to mind.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:06   #211
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You are extremely confused sir...
Extremely.
No not at all I have read many of his ranting's about Social Security and he insist on interjecting in any thread, on any topic, when he finds he has backed himself in a corner.


I direct you to post # 129 in this thread,

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...4#post20129664

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Scalping ammo is a shady practice. They are not champions of capitalism.... which is what you and CF are making them out to be.

I'm 25.
Again, you use such terms as "scalping ammo" as if they were definitive.

It's your prerogative to use any term you wish, but it does nothing to help your position. It only makes you appear naive.

At age 25 though, it can be easily understood..
Thanks for an honest answer to the question.
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No not at all I have read many of his ranting's about Social Security and he insist on interjecting in any thread, on any topic, when he finds he has backed himself in a corner.
I'll disagree with you.
He has never advocated "redistribution of Social Security".

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...coming from a guy who wants to liquidate the Social Security fund and put it in the general budget ...
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I guess if the Social Security fund is taken and redistributed for the good of whole society that isn't socialism?

I'm confident you can't find a single post where he did so.

And without looking back through this thread, I don't recall anyone mentioning SS except yourself.
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Again, you use such terms as "scalping ammo" as if they were definitive.

It's your prerogative to use any term you wish, but it does nothing to help your position. It only makes you appear naive.

At age 25 though, it can be easily understood..
Thanks for an honest answer to the question.
I use them as if they were definitive, because I see it as definitive. I KNOW (it's quite definite) I would feel like a tool if I were doing what 427 is doing. I KNOW I would have trouble sleeping at night.

We can use softer terms, but I don't think even you are willing to debate what they are doing is anything but scalping. Here... let's go back to "flipping" so no ones feelings are hurt.
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I use them as if they were definitive, because I see it as definitive. I KNOW (it's quite definite) I would feel like a tool if I were doing what 427 is doing. I KNOW I would have trouble sleeping at night.

We can use softer terms, but I don't think even you are willing to debate what they are doing is scalping. Here... let's go back to "flipping" so no ones feelings are hurt.

Not definitive... emotional.
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I feel obligated to ask again - if a friend went to Walmart for you to get a couple boxes of ammunition or a friend went to a gun show and got a case (back when ammo deals could be had at shows) would it be appropriate to offer him a few dollars for gasoline or a couple dollars over the cost of the ammunition for his time?
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I feel obligated to ask again - if a friend went to Walmart for you to get a couple boxes of ammunition or a friend went to a gun show and got a case (back when ammo deals could be had at shows) would it be appropriate to offer him a few dollars for gasoline or a couple dollars over the cost of the ammunition for his time?
Yes, but I think you see the distinction between that and buying out walmart's ammo supply to sell it minutes, hours, days later at an inflated price. There is a very CLEAR distinction between the two, I should not have even dignified this post with a response.
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I direct you to post # 129 in this thread,

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...4#post20129664

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Don't worry. You'll get your socialism security check.
Yep.. you are confused. Very, very confused.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:27   #220
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Yep.. you are confused. Very, very confused.
Well the fact that you don't question him posting that, in a thread on North Korea preparing for war, does confuse me as much as his doing it.
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I hope there isn’t any ammo in the purses that y’all are swingin’ in here.

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I use them as if they were definitive, because I see it as definitive. I KNOW (it's quite definite) I would feel like a tool if I were doing what 427 is doing. I KNOW I would have trouble sleeping at night.

We can use softer terms, but I don't think even you are willing to debate what they are doing is anything but scalping. Here... let's go back to "flipping" so no ones feelings are hurt.
You've said I am a scumbag, dishonest, wrong, unethical, taking advantage ect., yet when asked to explain exactly why, you feel this way, you can't - you won't.

You are the one with the problem and you can't articulate why you feel like you do.

I buy and I sell things, they, are just things, for a living. That's how I butter my bread. I don't think ammo, mags, are any different than anything else.

Let me ask again, how is flipping ammo any different than say the flight helmets I posted on another thread? I didn't pick those up to keep, (I'd love to) I got those to flip.

I'm not making anyone buy my stuff. None of the stuff I'm selling is necessary to live, they are for people with disposable income. Hell, I'm not even setting prices, people are bidding what they want to pay. And if I sell face to face, no one has to pay my asking price - the buyer can walk at anytime. I'm not just talking about firearms related stuff, either.

If you don't like it, that's your problem.
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Old 03-27-2013, 18:41   #223
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What's so funny? You're a slave to your own delusions about human nature. Your world only exists inside that extremist head of yours. I pity you. And I say that being 100% serious... I'm not angry with you, it depresses me knowing there are people like you out there... living sad existences, stepping on people to get ahead.

I sleep like a baby everynight with my conscience. Knowing I didn't let the rat race claim my soul.

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Not just directed at you, but I bet this is gonna be my third thread that gets locked from people arguing with each other about things that aren't even relevant to the conversation.
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Not just directed at you, but I bet this is gonna be my third thread that gets locked from people arguing with each other about things that aren't even relevant to the conversation.
Man, that's a fact.
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You've said I am a scumbag, dishonest, wrong, unethical, taking advantage ect., yet when asked to explain exactly why, you feel this way, you can't - you won't.

You are the one with the problem and you can't articulate why you feel like you do.

I buy and I sell things, they, are just things, for a living. That's how I butter my bread. I don't think ammo, mags, are any different than anything else.

Let me ask again, how is flipping ammo any different than say the flight helmets I posted on another thread? I didn't pick those up to keep, (I'd love to) I got those to flip.

I'm not making anyone buy my stuff. None of the stuff I'm selling is necessary to live, they are for people with disposable income. Hell, I'm not even setting prices, people are bidding what they want to pay.

If you don't like it, that's your problem.
I've articulated it plenty well enough. You've said yourself you are fine with the person behind you in line getting nothing, while you get everything. You even had the cheek to say you would turn around and sell it to that person behind you in line. Sorry but that's just a scumbag in my book... and certainly not someone I would want to be friends with.

That is why I've said what I said. How hard is that to understand?
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