Cz 75 - Page 2

KalashniKEV · 03-11-2013, 09:38

They are excellent pistols- reliable and VERY accurate. They all seem to have really great triggers.

1) Shoot it out of the box and don't change anything, ever. As soon as you start doing "work" and swapping parts you will see problems, swap more parts to fix them, create new problems, and eventually become part of the disgruntled minority.

2) Shoot it with stepped floorplate CZ mags, not Tangfolio mags.

3) If you break a slidestop, fix it and dump the gun. The guns that break slide stops seem to do it all the time. Mine has never broken a slide stop and doesn't show any wear and tear out of the ordinary. Some of the newer guns just eat slide stops, though this seems to have been recently fixed.

WarEagle32 · 03-11-2013, 10:55

I own and have owned a lot of guns. I started shooting as a Glock man and my 19 is still my EDC. However, my CZ Customs 85 Combat is by far the best handgun that my fingers have ever touched. I think that the CZ 75 family the best 9mm's made. At any price! JMO!

WayneJessie · 03-11-2013, 11:10

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Originally Posted by WarEagle32

I own and have owned a lot of guns. I started shooting as a Glock man and my 19 is still my EDC. However, my CZ Customs 85 Combat is by far the best handgun that my fingers have ever touched. I think that the CZ 75 family the best 9mm's made. At any price! JMO!

You used to be able to get them at a steal for the quality they are but the popularity of them has driven prices way up. I got my first 75C two years ago for $400nib. Try that now...

raven11 · 03-11-2013, 11:22

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Originally Posted by WayneJessie

You used to be able to get them at a steal for the quality they are but the popularity of them has driven prices way up. I got my first 75C two years ago for $400nib. Try that now...

That is a steal, nowadays you can only find the Turkish clones at that price

ojabog · 03-11-2013, 11:54

CZ75 is a fantastic gun. I have 800 rounds or so through it without any malfunctions. Easy to shoot and extremely accurate.

KalashniKEV · 03-11-2013, 12:30

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Originally Posted by raven11

That is a steal, nowadays you can only find the Turkish clones at that price

Robertson Trading Post had some Pre-Bs recently for less. They were a little bit beat though.

I got my CZ-75B MIL for $335 NIB a long time ago.

mr00jimbo · 03-11-2013, 13:01

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Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

They are excellent pistols- reliable and VERY accurate. They all seem to have really great triggers.

1) Shoot it out of the box and don't change anything, ever. As soon as you start doing "work" and swapping parts you will see problems, swap more parts to fix them, create new problems, and eventually become part of the disgruntled minority.

2) Shoot it with stepped floorplate CZ mags, not Tangfolio mags.

3) If you break a slidestop, fix it and dump the gun. The guns that break slide stops seem to do it all the time. Mine has never broken a slide stop and doesn't show any wear and tear out of the ordinary. Some of the newer guns just eat slide stops, though this seems to have been recently fixed.

My CZ gunsmith has broken a slidestop on his Shadow...around the 45,000 round mark. He replaced it and put another 20,000 rounds and so far no problems.
I think that's pretty good.

Has anybody had any break-in issues with their CZs? Mine stovepiped three times in the first 100 or so rounds with the stock 18# super heavy spring and 115 gr ammo.
I put a lighter recoil spring in (first 11#, then I bought a 16# one) and with the 11# no problems, hope the 16# performs well, too.

KalashniKEV · 03-11-2013, 14:00

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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo

My CZ gunsmith has broken a slidestop on his Shadow...around the 45,000 round mark. He replaced it and put another 20,000 rounds and so far no problems.

65,000 rounds is... impressive.

I'm talking about the normal folks who report consistent breakage of the slide stop. Some CZ's do it much more frequently than others.

motorcyclist · 03-11-2013, 17:14

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Originally Posted by countrygun

One member here is unhappy with the trigger on his fullsize stainless but that is about the only complaint I have ever heard about that full original.

That would be me! Yes, my stainless 75B had a horrible gritty trigger that with lots of dry firing and shot rounds has smoothed out to a terrible gritty trigger. In all fairness I shot a polycoat 75B and a PO-6 with great triggers which led me to buy one in the first place. It is beautifully made, a joy to hold in the hand and everybody that sees it asks how much I want for it. That last CZ thread got me thinking about its fate. I keep thinking about contacting Cajun gun works and if I'm going to keep it I need to do something about the trigger.

WayneJessie · 03-11-2013, 17:20

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Originally Posted by motorcyclist

That would be me! Yes, my stainless 75B had a horrible gritty trigger that with lots of dry firing and shot rounds has smoothed out to a terrible gritty trigger. In all fairness I shot a polycoat 75B and a PO-6 with great triggers which led me to buy one in the first place. It is beautifully made, a joy to hold in the hand and everybody that sees it asks how much I want for it. That last CZ thread got me thinking about its fate. I keep thinking about contacting Cajun gun works and if I'm going to keep it I need to do something about the trigger.

Probably best to just ditch it to someone like me before you get too much money tied up in it.

motorcyclist · 03-11-2013, 17:47

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Originally Posted by WayneJessie

Probably best to just ditch it to someone like me before you get too much money tied up in it.

That could happen.

countrygun · 03-11-2013, 18:05

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Originally Posted by WayneJessie

Probably best to just ditch it to someone like me before you get too much money tied up in it.

Hey now, I have actually done an action job on a CZ and I would hate to see one of those particular ones running around with a bad trigger, and I would hate to see someone get themselves in over their head on one.

I think, as a favor to both of you I should take over custody before someone pokes their eye out with it.

You will thank me later.

fnfalman · 03-13-2013, 14:18

I have three CZ-75Bs: a blued, a two-tones and a mirror polished SS model.

I love'em. Something about a solid steel pistol that sits well in your hand and can cave in a skull if and when you run out of ammo.

Strangely enough, I don't care much for the rest of the CZ pistol lines. One of these days, I'd like to get a pre-B model that isn't all beat up to hell like some of the surplus imports.

msl · 03-13-2013, 14:23

Have had a CZ75B in the past and unfortunately sold it.... Great shooting gun and never an issue. I currently have a CZ75 PCR the aluminum frame model. Great Cary gun and just as fun to shoot as the all steel model.

steven07 · 03-31-2013, 12:01

So I stopped in my buddy's pawn shop yesterday afternoon because he got an lcp in that I recently started looking for. $320 out the door seemed like a very fair price to me so I picked it up and while I was leaving I caught a glance of CZ 75 compact setting in his case. After holding it I decided I had to have it to but at $579 I decided to sweat him down a little. Left him a voicemail later that evening and I'm hoping he calls me back Monday with a better price.

joatmo · 03-31-2013, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Samned2003

I bought a CZ P07 Duty and really liked it and it was very accurate, but a friend bought it from me, and I regret selling it.

Same here. The damn thing was dead accurate and just a hair smaller than A Glock 19. I wish I wouldn't have sold it but i'll probably pick up another some time.
Great guns.

***12131*** · 03-31-2013, 13:43

Great line of pistols. My favorite is the 75D PCR compact. All metal, light weight, 14+1, perfect decocker location, no rail, and just about perfectly ergonomically balanced as I can get. Beautiful looking gun, too.
The main thing folks tend to gripe about the CZ75 is the stock trigger. Its SA pull, uncustomized, really sucks (gritty/creepy).

***12131*** · 03-31-2013, 13:48

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Originally Posted by steven07

So I stopped in my buddy's pawn shop yesterday afternoon because he got an lcp in that I recently started looking for. $320 out the door seemed like a very fair price to me so I picked it up and while I was leaving I caught a glance of CZ 75 compact setting in his case. After holding it I decided I had to have it to but at $579 I decided to sweat him down a little. Left him a voicemail later that evening and I'm hoping he calls me back Monday with a better price.

If it's NIB, then I doubt you'll get a much better deal than that, these days. A couple of years ago, you can get it for less than $500. Not any more.

countrygun · 03-31-2013, 13:51

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Originally Posted by 12131

Great line of pistols. My favorite is the 75D PCR compact. All metal, light weight, 14+1, perfect decocker location, no rail, and just about perfectly ergonomically balanced as I can get. Beautiful looking gun, too.
The main thing folks tend to gripe about the CZ75 is the stock trigger. Its SA pull, uncustomized, really sucks (gritty/creepy).

I don't have any that are "gritty" but the basic design, unaltered, creates a "rolling" SA pull. I just treat in like a small compressed DA pull. I can't imagine it shooting any tighter so it's fine with me.

WayneJessie · 03-31-2013, 16:20

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Originally Posted by steven07

Been doing a little research on this gun & so far it's sounding good. I have a little tax money set aside and am in the market for a new toy. Already decided on a 9mm because I have several & buy the ammo in bulk. This will not be a carry gun so the full size and compact are both on the table. What are your views or have you had any issues with this model.

The PO1 is what a G19 wants to be when it grow

s up. I have two G19s so I can say that if I want to.

The PO1 and the 75D PCR are alloy framed and are excellent carry guns. They are also very accurate. I also have one of the steel compacts that holds a special place in my heart. It was my first CZ pistol. Most of the time the triggers start out rough but shooting usually smooths them out. If not CZ Custom and a few others offer the parts needed to make them sweet. The full sized CZ pistols are nice too but as far as my needs the compacts suit me better. If I was going to buy a full sized CZ it would be the SPO1. Just my preference. I would like to have a matte stainless model but a certain member here won't get his heart right and sell it to me

. CZ used to be the best kept secret as far as a super accurate and well made gun at a steal price. Well the secret is out now and the prices have soared on the steel and alloy models. The PO7 and PO9 are still great buys but I have seen PO1 and 75C models bring $300 over list. I ain't doing that for any commonly found gun. I don't think anyone can complain about CZ customer service. I bet if you buy one it won't be your last so be forewarned.

steven07 · 03-31-2013, 18:10

Was looking at their site earlier and that p-09 is a pretty sweet look gun too.
http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/P-09Duty/

Chaos_XII · 03-31-2013, 20:52

CZ does offer a mil/leo discount. Picked up a PCR last summer, price was right at 430. When I placed the order with them I was told there was a two month back order. Three weeks later it came in. Awesome pistols!

shootalot523 · 04-02-2013, 10:20

I was looking at a CZ 75 but my local shop (which is big) and can typically get anything, can't get any new CZ's. Anyone see any new in stock online or in stores?

WayneJessie · 04-02-2013, 14:04

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Originally Posted by shootalot523

I was looking at a CZ 75 but my local shop (which is big) and can typically get anything, can't get any new CZ's. Anyone see any new in stock online or in stores?

The only ones I am seeing is on GB(Gouge Broker). I'd hold tight until sanity returns. Never seen it like this before.

WarEagle32 · 04-02-2013, 19:02

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Originally Posted by WayneJessie

The only ones I am seeing is on GB(Gouge Broker). I'd hold tight until sanity returns. Never seen it like this before.

I think you are doing the right thing at the moment. I have my 85 Combat Custom that is a competition gun. I really want to get just a 75B or 85B. Then, put some night sights, and remove the firing pin block, and add it to my carry rotation. I love those guns! I fear that the higher prices may stay awhile on these though because the secret is finally out. Most hard core gun guys have found out they are literally second to none!