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Old 03-02-2013, 11:54   #26
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Tire tread on its own would probably be sufficient to stop pistol rounds but I don't think it would help much for rifle rounds. Do you know what sort of benefit it would offer over bed liner?
A steel belted truck tire is not a reliable stopper of 22LR. Most shots from my 10/22 go right through. Any angle tends to deflect them. I learned this from when I thought I could use them for a backstop. Fail. I now have a 4' x 6' 1/2 steel plate at an angle behind landscape timbers. Timbers catch most rounds. steel plate traps the rest.

Landscape timbers would not make a very good hillbilly vest though.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:05   #27
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Could be a little heavy.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:13   #28
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Old 03-05-2013, 13:58   #29
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I modeled a triple tile one after your first one and will be testing it soon with some close up video. Im curious to see how the two tile one works
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Old 03-05-2013, 15:32   #30
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You could always make body armor out of a pot belly stove like Clint Eastwood did!
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Old 03-05-2013, 17:51   #31
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Believe it or not the M! tank has ceramic as part of it's armor.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/m1-tank4.htm
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Old 03-05-2013, 23:19   #32
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One thing law enforcement administrators need to keep up with is that body armor DOES have an expiration date, and needless to say this is of the up most importance. My departments (which I won't name) had SWAT TEAM members wearing body armor that was 5 years out of date, until a lone member discovered it. At that time new armor was issued ASAP. So LEAO's check your armor, and stay safe.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:36   #33
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That would be a much less serious issue for the SWAT officers than it would have been for a beat cop because they typically wear that armor less. Although there is an expiration date, armor doesn't exactly spoil so much as wear out. Soft armor that is stored lying flat in a cool, dark place like under your bed will last indefinitely while armor that is worn every day, exposed to temperature extremes, flexed, sweated on, etc. will wear out after only a couple years.
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Old 03-11-2013, 14:54   #34
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Any more test's /videos from you guys on this? I love this redneck stuff...
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Old 03-11-2013, 18:01   #35
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The cool thing is the OP is using commodity items--cheap!

The question I want to know is the second shot--the first shoot has good results--a second shot anywhere near the first punches right thru--right??
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Believe it or not the M! tank has ceramic as part of it's armor.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/m1-tank4.htm
for a different reason--- the ceramic won't melt and enter the tank (killing the crew) like steel will... great for HEAT rounds.
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:38   #37
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Old 03-11-2013, 20:41   #38
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The cool thing is the OP is using commodity items--cheap!

The question I want to know is the second shot--the first shoot has good results--a second shot anywhere near the first punches right thru--right??
Not exactly. On the test with three tiles, I hit fairly close (about 3" apart) with the 7.62 hits and it worked. I also hit really close with the .40 S&W. I think that you're right, though, that a rifle hit within one inch of the previous hit would have a high probability of failure.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:14   #39
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Hillbilly body armor Mk IV:

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Three tiles, with a layer of bed liner and woven fiberglass fabric on the back side of each layer. I also made one with the same configuration but only two tiles, which I think will be good for multiple pistol hits or maybe one .223/5.56mm. I was very conservative with the bed liner.
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Why am I suddenly thinking about a tornado room?

Line the walls and install a good steel door.....master closet upgrade ahead.
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Why am I suddenly thinking about a tornado room?

Line the walls and install a good steel door.....master closet upgrade ahead.
Good idea.
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Old 04-23-2013, 18:12   #43
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Yes!... updateness please.

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Yes!... updateness please.


New video is in the OP. ;^)
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Old 04-23-2013, 19:59   #45
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Try some tire tread.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.

I shot up some Nitto Mud Grapplers (E, 10 ply) that were worn down but not out. No belts exposed or even visable, they had about 1/16 of tread left. Most ammo I used (9mm, 357auto, 40, 10mm and 7.62x39) went through at least once on the outside and through the sidewall's at least once. I was'nt closer than 20 ft., maybe up to 50 ft. I shot some 180 gr. 10mm GD's and I found two of about 30. Other ammo was mostly FMJ (9mm) and TMJ (the rest). Barrel lengths were 4 and 4.5". The AK (16") just blew through like a hot bullet through warm butter.

I wonder how laminate tiles inbetween the ceramic tiles would fair? Maybe use the bedliner on both sides of all tile and laminate tile glue in between?

Thanks for the time and effort with your test.
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I just had a 12 hour drive and got to thinking about this thread; when hit a single tile tends to shatter and fracture the entire tile. As I understand it military vests are made of a mosaic of tiles like a honeycomb, so only the tile hit shatters preserving the other tiles.

So what if one were to use those small tiles adhered to an open weave backing so they can be put down like larger single tiles. You could lay over a barrel to impart some curvature to better fit the body, use an epoxy like you would grout to to add some resistance between tiles and coat with bed liner as before, as you cut the top corners of each layer make sure the individual tiles overlap(like the seams in a brick wall) so you don't have the seams lining up. At least in theory only the tile square hit and maybe those next to it should be compromised maintaining the integrity of the majority of the vest.

If I can find the time I may play with this, it sounds interesting.

And instead of fiberglass fabric between layers of tile, or in this case to adhere the tiles to...

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...FS9dQgodtWoAVA

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