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Old 03-05-2013, 10:49   #161
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As is often the case in business, ego seems to be getting in the way. All he needs to do is issue a lame apology and change the numbers on the box flap. The ammo is still hotter than most, though not as good as Underwood. People would buy his stuff if he wasn't an arrogant jackass. As it is it looks like his company will go under before he cops to what he did.
You're probably right although he should also lower his prices...

He has lost a literal ton of business to Underwood already.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:20   #162
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I agree but I think he could still stay in business even at the inflated prices if he was just honest.
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Old 03-06-2013, 21:21   #163
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Any way you slice it, Mike McNett helped to move the 10MM Auto cartridge forward in popularity and power. Times were getting pretty bleak there for those in search of Norma power levels back in the day. Folks were thinking the .40 S&W would supplant the 10MM when Mike picked up the torch.

His initial cartridges using Starline Brass were well made and consistent. His case discount made it attractively priced then too. Forum members were buying more and more with good reports. Then he got his own stamped nickel plated cases and to me that product coupled with the 200 grain XTP was a good reason to stop searching for the right 10MM round and just load up the truck. I've shot thousands of completely reliable rounds from that era and absolutely could not be happier with the round.

Another thing worth considering I think. In business it is common that initial set prices rise as time passes and the owner gets a truer picture of what his true costs are. Furthermore it is common in businesses like this that have fairly low cost of entry that new guys are frequently joining the market at low and likely unsustainable prices because they still don't know the full magnitude of their costs.

I'm sorry to see some of these recent issues and hopefully changes will be implemented to get back the QC of the not so distant past. It's not like us shooters are exactly flush with choices for 10MM, Mike has done good for the round and I hope he sticks around for a long time.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:11   #164
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Why are the 200gr noslers missing advertised velocity when ran through a 6" hunter barrel and around 100-150fps slower from a 4.6" barrel than advertised?
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:13   #165
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Mag360, DT used to load ammunition to the claimed velocities but several years ago, they reduced the loads and never changed the claims. Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and a few other companies make ammunition that meets their claims.

Take a look at this spreadsheet. It gives tested specs on quite a few 10mm loads. Just click on the bullet weight to see loads in that weight range.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...owsperpage=250
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Old 08-28-2013, 16:31   #166
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thanks! I have that spreadsheet too. I've added some of pat Quinn's (gunblast.com) testing in as well with his 6.3" barrel and a couple other various loads he has done.
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Old 08-28-2013, 16:59   #167
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Great! Intercooler put it together with data gathered from his tests, Shadow's, and my own.
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Old 02-13-2014, 18:52   #168
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So on their website they list hollow points but not a manufacturer. Who do they buy from?
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Old 02-13-2014, 19:30   #169
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So on their website they list hollow points but not a manufacturer. Who do they buy from?
They were called down on using the trademark names by Speer namely Gold Dot...now they are referred to as "bonded defense".
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Old 02-13-2014, 19:43   #170
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I don't wish anything ill toward DT, I also credit McNett with helping revitalize the 10mm, along with offering some uptempo loads in in other otherwise watered down calibers.
Still, I'm also disappointed with exaggerative claims that don't jive with the chrono and I have experienced that myself using the .44sp load from 3 guns over the chrono.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:55   #171
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Are they still being exaggerated? It's been 9 years since this thread was started. Have they not addressed the issue?
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