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Old 02-18-2013, 17:48   #1
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Really Impressed with the Mossy 590A1...

Hey all,

I stopped in my local shop today, I haven't been in since the madness started so I didn't know what I would see when I got there. Surprisingly they had a pretty good selection, but only a few AR's and only 1 AK. Both priced reasonably. One thing was that they had a BIG SIGN up that was apologizing for the prices of 9mm ammo. They said they couldn't get ANY....ANYWHERE. They had NO FMJ 9mm ammo and this is one of the most popular indoor ranges in the Houston area.

Anyway, one thing I noticed was that they had a great selection of HD shotguns including many Benelli M2's and quite a few Mossy 590's. I had been going back and forth on the 590 and the 870. I have never owned a 590 and the last time I handled one it felt cheap, not very much quality at all. That was many years ago though.

Well today they had about 10 590A1's on the rack and I had to check one out. I handled the 590A1 with the 18.5 inch barrel, Ghost Rings and Speedfeed stock. It was priced at $549.
I was IMPRESSED. This is one SUPER NICE shotgun. The second I got it in my hands I felt like I was handling a quality piece. It was SOLID, not a rattle anywhere, the controls all functioned great and had a great positive feel to them. The slide racking felt and sounded great. After handing it back to them to put back on the rack, I wanted it. Right now I am scheming on how to get it soon. No way would I feel at any kind of disadvantage with that 590A1.

Mossberg must have really stepped up their building and quality. Not to say anything was wrong in the first place, but over the years I have read reports that suggested that maybe they weren't really the BEST choice in shotguns. Well that is FAR from what I handled today.

The only thing that kinda took me by surprise was how much it weighed. It felt really heavy at first. That Speedfeed stock also felt like it was shorter than a normal stock. Is it? If so, I would opt for the standard stock.

Well that's my story. I can see why you Mossy guys and gals are so proud of your shotguns. If I had one I'd be crowing about it too. This one today certainly felt better in the hand than the last 870 that I handled and fooled with.

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Old 02-18-2013, 19:31   #2
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thats why i have 2.
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Old 02-18-2013, 20:25   #3
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Old 02-18-2013, 20:39   #4
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This is an easy answer.... go back and get it
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Old 02-18-2013, 21:44   #5
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love my Mossberg. its my HD gun. my M1S90 is great, but I feel better with the Moss,
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Old 02-18-2013, 21:49   #6
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I love both of mine. You need to get one for yourself.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:48   #7
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Hey guys...

Believe me I am wanting one BAD!! I can't get that 590A1 out of my head since yesterday. I tell ya to my hands and mind, it felt so much more stout and solid than the last few 870's that I have handled. I can see what the cops and soldiers love them. They feel like BUSINESS, ALL BUSINESS.

I think when I make my last car payment on April 1 I am going to treat myself and this is on this TOP of the list right now.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:51   #8
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One last thing, before handling that A1 yesterday with the 18.5 inch barrel I thought if I ever got a Mossy it would be the 590SPX. There is a member here that has one and has posted pics of it and it is one of the coolest looking shotguns I have ever seen. I really liked it. I can re-post the pics of it if you want to see it.

Now I am thinking differently. That extra 2 inches of barrel, extra length extension and other goodies on that SPX makes me think it would be much heavier than what I would like. Does the weight of the 9 shot versions hinder any of you guys that own them? Just curious about that. I like the 18.5 inch version now.

I would love to get one and then take a shotgun class to learn the ins and outs of proper handling of a HD shotgun. One of those entire weekend classes where you shoot a few hundred rounds is what I would like. Anyone else take a course like that and if so, did you like it and would you recommend one?

Thanks again.

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Old 02-19-2013, 19:40   #9
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I have a 590A1 & a 590 special purpose. Both are amazing!!
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:38   #10
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If your going to get one....why not really treat yourself?

http://www.shop.vangcomp.net/product...&categoryId=11
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:18   #11
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If your going to get one....why not really treat yourself?

http://www.shop.vangcomp.net/product...&categoryId=11
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Old 02-27-2013, 18:34   #12
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What about just using a full choke, or a modified choke?
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Old 02-27-2013, 18:58   #13
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What about just using a full choke, or a modified choke?
You would need to thread the end of a 18.5" to add the choke and the VCS can also add vent ports. I suppose you could find someone to do them both.

What you are indicating is essentially what the back boring acomplishes... they open up the existing bore diameter from the chamber end and the shot gets choked down as it gets to the non-bored area at the end of the barrel.

They think the back boring reduces some of the recoil because of the larger barrel diameter reducing some friction. It would be interesting to chronograph 00 B out of a VCS and non-VCS barrel. Reduced recoil rounds might be a less expensive option.
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Old 02-28-2013, 00:09   #14
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They're a much nicer gun than the 870 express guns IMO. After all the crap that Freedom Group is turning out these days I'll probably not be picking up an 870P like I was planning and instead picking up another 590A1 to replace the one I stupidly sold.
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You would need to thread the end of a 18.5" to add the choke and the VCS can also add vent ports. I suppose you could find someone to do them both.

What you are indicating is essentially what the back boring acomplishes... they open up the existing bore diameter from the chamber end and the shot gets choked down as it gets to the non-bored area at the end of the barrel.

They think the back boring reduces some of the recoil because of the larger barrel diameter reducing some friction. It would be interesting to chronograph 00 B out of a VCS and non-VCS barrel. Reduced recoil rounds might be a less expensive option.
Both gives you the recoil of a smaller caliber rifle.

And it's always fun to show off the work that Hans Vang developed.
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Old 02-28-2013, 14:21   #16
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I can't agree a 12 ga with 00 buck out of an 18" has the same recoil as a small caliber rifle.... The VCS only reduces recoil by a stated 15%.
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I can't agree a 12 ga with 00 buck out of an 18" has the same recoil as a small caliber rifle.... The VCS only reduces recoil by a stated 15%.
You musta missed the part about Reduced (Low) Recoil shells with the VC System. And that I said smaller not small.
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Old 02-28-2013, 15:24   #18
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They're a much nicer gun than the 870 express guns IMO. After all the crap that Freedom Group is turning out these days I'll probably not be picking up an 870P like I was planning and instead picking up another 590A1 to replace the one I stupidly sold.
I agree with the 870 crap they are putting out! I looked at a Magpul Edition yesterday at Gander Mountain & almost bought it. While inspecting it, I discovered a small chunk missing from the barrel toward the front sight! It was oval & about the size of two pen tips put next to each other. The finish was in tact, so it came from the factory like that. The depth of the hole looked to be about half the barrel thickness.

I then went to Dunham's to see what they had. I found only one Tactical model. As soon as I got it in my hands, I knew something was wrong! On the left side of the receiver, bubbling! Right side of the receiver, a busted bubble with rust!!!

Even though I was looking to own my first Remington 870, I'm going back to Mossberg! Had a 500 Mariner about 15 years ago, sold it to pay bills! Had a 590A1 just a few years ago, also sold it to pay bills! Never had a problem with either one!!!
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You musta missed the part about Reduced (Low) Recoil shells with the VC System. And that I said smaller not small.
Yep I missed that...reading off a phone.
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I like my A1 with over 300 skulls.

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Old 02-28-2013, 22:21   #21
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WOWZA...that is a sweet finish there megawatt.

I have always wondered about the Vang Comp barrel work. I have read many reports from those that have had it done to their 870's mostly. Everyone seems to rave about the performance when they get it back.

The one I looked at and am interested in is exactly like the one in that link from Vang. The Vang 590A1 is about $250 more than the factory model in my local store. Do you all really think it's worth the extra money? That would buy a helluva lot of practice ammo that you could get really good with that 590A1 with. You could also just about pay for a weekend shotgun class if you chose to go that way. I would like to take one of those classes someday though. If for no other reason than it would be much more fun to get accustomed to your shotgun by firing and practicing at interesting targets and scenarios rather than go to your local range or piece of land, get out a couple boxes of Wally 100 round paks, set up a couple paper targets, some cinderblocks, 2 liter bottles, an old door or 2, some drywall and anything else you can rummage up and just start shooting for several hours.

Anyway, what's your verdict on the Vang Comp barrel work on the 590A1? Worth the extra or not?

Thanks for the info.

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The one advantage would be smaller groups as you distance yourself from the target. The second is the ported barrel reducing muzzel rise.

You can always have it done later if you want to. It costs $255 to have the barrel back bored and ported if you send it to Vang yourself.
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The actual Vang Comp shot gun has lengthening the forcing cone, back-boring the barrel, and adding compensating ports, ghost ring sights, all metal trigger group, synthetic stock, aluminum oversized safety and the barrel has a parkerized finish.

The porting of the barrel looks like this:
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The actual Vang Comp shot gun has lengthening the forcing cone, back-boring the barrel, and adding compensating ports, ghost ring sights, all metal trigger group, synthetic stock, aluminum oversized safety and the barrel has a parkerized finish.

The porting of the barrel looks like this:
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So - in the pic with a bottle of Vodka, we also see a photo where the poster clearly has the business end pointed right at his chest...



These were originally taken as part of the "Example of how not to handle a firearm" series, right?
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And you are impressed by the 590 because, it is impressive. See how that works?
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