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Old 02-25-2013, 07:42   #51
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Smith, 17, is accused of robbing Tyler of his gun inside the BP station and fatally shooting him about 8:15 p.m. on Nov. 25. Tyler, 48, had a concealed-carry permit but had been wearing the gun in a holster, plainly visible. According to court documents, Smith grabbed the gun from Tyler during a struggle inside the store and shot Tyler in the chest after the victim chased Smith.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/te...a0a2b26ba.html

"Tyler, a customer at the BP station, was killed about 8:15 p.m. Friday, Nov. 25, inside the store. According to court papers, Smith and Hamiel arrived at the BP together on a single scooter and followed Tyler into the store.

Tyler, 48, had a concealed-carry permit, but his handgun was plainly visible that night in his holster, Johnson said.

"The suspects walk in and one immediately reached for Mr. Tyler's gun," Johnson said. Tyler did not draw his weapon.

According to court papers, Smith took Tyler's gun during a struggle and shot Tyler in the chest after the victim chased Smith inside the store. Authorities said they could not confirm that Tyler was killed with his own gun until they get the results of forensics testing. They also are awaiting test results to show whether the gun used to kill Tyler was the one used to shoot Cosby."

So yes he was OC and they did snatch his gun unawares. He chased to get the gun back and was shot dead.

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So, are you for OC or not?



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Old 02-25-2013, 08:36   #52
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I think that if you're allowed to open carry, you should be required to take a class teaching you how to retain your handgun, to try and avoid what happened in that convenience store.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:27   #53
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I think that if you're allowed to open carry, you should be required to take a class teaching you how to retain your handgun, to try and avoid what happened in that convenience store.
Required?

What kind of 'requirement' is needed for the carrying of a hammer?



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Old 02-25-2013, 12:07   #54
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A gun snatch is one of those things people like to bring up about OC that they can never cite one instance of it happening. You have to have situational awareness, if you dont know whats going on around you then having a gun will be useless regardless of how you are carrying it.
Although I can't cite the story, it has happened. About a year or so ago some guy had his OC gun snatched.

He chased after the guy and when he caught up to him the guy turned around and killed him with his own gun.

It was discussed here on GT at the time.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:34   #55
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I think that if you're allowed to open carry, you should be required to take a class teaching you how to retain your handgun, to try and avoid what happened in that convenience store.
Negligent discharges happen with a likely higher statistical frequency than OC gun grabs, so by your logic, should everyone be *required* to pass training to even purchase a firearm?

Further, even licensed CHL holders can make mistakes. Does the statistically low probability of something going wrong mean that CC shouldn't be legal as well? That's ridiculous.

Come on guys, something here is being done to try and advance gun rights in Texas. Almost every other part of the nation is further restricting gun rights. As gun owners and responsible law abiding citizens we should all be embracing this and contacting representatives, regardless of whether or not you personally choose to open carry for tactical or personal reasons.

Being legal doesn't mean you'll see it spring up everywhere. Hell, I've lived in Texas for almost 30 years and long gun open carry is legal here and I can't remember many instances I've seen it, but it sure is nice when you need to bring a long gun into a gun shop from your car, especially when that gun shop is in a busy shopping center with other businesses.
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Old 02-25-2013, 14:15   #56
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What I'm wondering is why are y'all making such a big deal about 1 gun snatch from an OC? If you don't feel safe with an OC, then don't carry that way. But let the people who are comfortable with it, carry how they want to.
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Old 02-25-2013, 15:45   #57
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What I'm wondering is why are y'all making such a big deal about 1 gun snatch from an OC? If you don't feel safe with an OC, then don't carry that way. But let the people who are comfortable with it, carry how they want to.
I'm not opposed to OC, but this is an open forum where people are expecting to be free to express their opinion.

As long as they don't get too rude I don't what the problem is.

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Old 02-25-2013, 15:49   #58
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What I'm wondering is why are y'all making such a big deal about 1 gun snatch from an OC? If you don't feel safe with an OC, then don't carry that way. But let the people who are comfortable with it, carry how they want to.
Some remind me of my wife...if she doesn't like it or doesn't do it, then everyone should agree with her...cause she is right!

I don't tell people to CCW; but I do tell them to research it, to make an educated decision on it. Some have even decided to OC occasional.

OC is a preference. Some just don't see it that way.



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