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Old 02-12-2013, 16:18   #61
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:08   #62
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:41   #63
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Cancel the drones...
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:44   #64
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Cancel the drones...
Not just yet...
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:58   #65
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Breaking news: Police believe they've located Dorner. Some one inside the cabin is screaming "DON'T DRONE ME BRO......DON'T DRONE ME......
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Old 02-12-2013, 19:02   #66
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Latest looks like he's a crispy critter now.

I hope this is over.
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Old 02-12-2013, 19:04   #67
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You making things up is what we call a "straw man" argument. There was no information about using missiles and no change to the law that would apply to using them in downtown LA. You are inventing a fantasy world to argue in, that has nothing to do with the reality. If the police use drones, they can only use them in the same way they'd fire a rifle from a helicopter. If he's in downtown LA, currently law wouldn't allow the use of bombs and missiles that could hit others and if he's out in the desert, current law already allwos the police to kill him with a missile or anything else they have. Use of force law says when the police can use deadly force - it doesn't say what they can use to kill you.
Bren, the LA PD called Predators to search for 3 armed men that stole 6 cattle a few months ago: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec...rrest-20111211
You don't think the LA PD would send a Predator (unarmed) to look for a domestic terrorist (Dorner)?
Seems like a logical assumption to me, thus why I said I have no problem with sending a Predator to look for him as long as it's unarmed. A Predator carries one type of munition, hellfire missiles.

If there is another type of drone (there are many) that YOU are assuming will be used, then please post a pic or a link of one with a sniper rifle on it and we can talk about that. At the moment there is no strawman argument because quite frankly you and I aren't even discussing the same subject... You might be trying to draw me into some type of argument with you, well I'm just not interested honestly. You asked me to clarify my comment, and I did.
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Latest looks like he's a crispy critter now.

I hope this is over.
I hope this is over too, a dirt nap for Dorner be a happy ending to this fiasco.
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Bren, the LA PD called Predators to search for 3 armed men that stole 6 cattle a few months ago: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec...rrest-20111211
You don't think the LA PD would send a Predator (unarmed) to look for a domestic terrorist (Dorner)?
Seems like a logical assumption to me, thus why I said I have no problem with sending a Predator to look for him as long as it's unarmed. A Predator carries one type of munition, hellfire missiles.

If there is another type of drone (there are many) that YOU are assuming will be used, then please post a pic or a link of one with a sniper rifle on it and we can talk about that. At the moment there is no strawman argument because I clarified my comment when you asked me too. Quite frankly you and I aren't even discussing the same subject...
The predators can carry a few munitions, more are on the way.

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It's still just a weapon system, a pilot fires the weapons. I'd still not like to see explosives used within the borders of the USA. With the possible exception of drug smugglers on the border.

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Latest looks like he's a crispy critter now.
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Waco game plan?
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Waco game plan?
He had his chances. No innocents inside. Sympathy level is very low.
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Latest looks like he's a crispy critter now.

I hope this is over.
Janet come out of retirement?
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Janet come out of retirement?
So, who are you picking as the bad guy here?
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Breaking news: Chris Dorner has been buried at sea.
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So, who are you picking as the bad guy here?
Dorner of course. I thought maybe they had Janet come in and TCB. Fiery endings are her hallmark after all.
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Dorner of course. I thought maybe they had Janet come in and TCB. Fiery endings are her hallmark after all.
All indications are he was planning to go out in a blaze of one kind or another.
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All indications are he was planning to go out in a blaze of one kind or another.
I'm sure the LAPD's feelings were mutual.
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I'm sure the LAPD's feelings were mutual.
See? Customer service win.

A distinct chance that the fire was caused by CS launched by the cops. This raises my sympathy for him not at all.
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I'm sure the LAPD's feelings were mutual.
But for his own murderous actions, none of this would have happened.

I hope I'm getting a mistaken impression that you sympathize with this guy.
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