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Old 02-12-2013, 07:14   #241
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Changed the outcome of WW2?? I didn't know the spirit of John Browning did covert design work for the Manhattan Project. I'm always amazed at the things you read on the internet.

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That might have been a stretch, but he did say "may have" changed the outcome, due to the great designs.

It surely didn't hurt, I'll say that.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:21   #242
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Obviously that is a picture from space of a Glock 20 being fired.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:30   #243
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I'm surprised that you know so little about WW II that you post the mushroom cloud and think that supports what you said.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:05   #244
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I'm surprised that you know so little about WW II that you post the mushroom cloud and think that supports what you said.
What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.

But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:15   #245
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What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.

But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
Well, you could start out with the fact that nearly every "gun" on every American aircraft, fighter, bomber, etc was a Browning design. As was the "Quad .50 anti-aircraft gun.

The BAR shaped squad tactics, and the use of the .30 Browning can't be overlooked at the infantry level.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:21   #246
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What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.

But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
You really should read Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldiers".
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:26   #247
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Here's the thing - the design that most people associate with Browning - the 1911 - may have been one of the least significant weapons he developed from a historical (ie "changing the results of a battle or war") perspective.

Think about how important the rest of them must have been then!
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Old 02-12-2013, 13:53   #248
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Herman Goring said if he had been able to equip his planes with the Browning 50 cal machine guns, they would have won the battle of Britain.
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Old 02-12-2013, 15:59   #249
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On the 1911 ???

Use the mainspring housing pin.

BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.
Yep. For the M1911 and M1911A1, you need nothing to break the gun down in detail other what's supplied with the gun.
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Yep. For the M1911 and M1911A1, you need nothing to break the gun down in detail other what's supplied with the gun.
well, opposable thumbs help, but i digress.
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Old 02-12-2013, 16:25   #251
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On the 1911 ???

Use the mainspring housing pin.

BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.
Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........thatís good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.
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Old 02-12-2013, 16:33   #252
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Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........thatís good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.
Yeah, stick with your Glocks.

They're real simple for beginners.
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Q) Is Gaston Glock on the same level as John Browning?

A) No.
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Thats nice- reminds me of another American company from a long time ago. Harley Davidson use to have an ad "An engine so simple you could overhaul it alongside the road"..........thatís good because many times you had too.

Strange my Glocks don't seem to need that 3/16" punch very often.
The Browning was designed for service men who were capable of disassembling the gun to clean or repair it in the field.

The Glock was designed for those who weren't.
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Old 02-12-2013, 17:03   #255
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Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???
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Old 02-12-2013, 17:13   #256
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You are correct. Doesn't matter.
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:04   #257
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Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???
Who cares? What use does it have?

BTW, Gaston himself didn't design squat in the firearms world.
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Old 02-12-2013, 18:31   #258
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What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.

But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
Thing is that if JMB's designs were any more successful in WWII there might just not be any designs by GG today

Regardless of what you think JMB's designs impact was on WWI or WWII the fact is his designs were knee deep in each war, and many since. What wars have any of GG's designs even been involved in to impact?

So.....battle tested firearm designs....point to JMB.
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Not that it will matter at this point but you do know that Glock made the fastest machine pistol on the PLANET right???
The Beretta 93 is sooo much sweeter than a Glock 18

Faster means squat in a machine pistol IMO.
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