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02-11-2013, 17:48
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Originally Posted by maxmanta
I need a punch (or similar tool) to get the FP out, but otherwise I agree.
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On the 1911 ???
Use the mainspring housing pin.
BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.
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02-11-2013, 19:01
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Originally Posted by countrygun
BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.
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Very true
It was certainly very innovative.
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02-11-2013, 19:25
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This thread has legs.....
I wonder if Trey Parker is on the same level as Walt Disney?
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02-11-2013, 20:09
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One is a demigod-the other is a humorless Australian business man.
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02-11-2013, 20:30
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Troll off....
I sincerely wish I had a tenth of the talent these two had. One repeatedly revolutionized the small arms world and the other climbed to the top of said world with a single design. Any real discussion on the supremacy of either is fraught with impossibility and sprinkled with troll bait. I shall just be happy to shoot one of their designs whilst competing against talented shooters using the other.
That said.....
TROLL ON!!!
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02-11-2013, 20:39
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Originally Posted by caraker0341
Troll off....
I sincerely wish I had a tenth of the talent these two had. One repeatedly revolutionized the small arms world and the other climbed to the top of said world with a single design. Any real discussion on the supremacy of either is fraught with impossibility and sprinkled with troll bait. I shall just be happy to shoot one of their designs whilst competing against talented shooters using the other.
That said.....
TROLL ON!!!
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If Lady Gaga had a hit on the charts right now and the Beatles didn't, would you say that Lady Gaga has contributed as much to the music world as the Beatles?
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
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02-11-2013, 20:40
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I would say it's about time this stupid thread had run it's course.
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02-11-2013, 20:48
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You watch yer mouth! Lady Gaga is a fashion genius!!
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02-11-2013, 20:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caraker0341
You watch yer mouth! Lady Gaga is a fashion genius!!
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And here is a personal Glock Salute to Lady Gaga
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
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02-11-2013, 20:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
If Lady Gaga had a hit on the charts right now and the Beatles didn't, would you say that Lady Gaga has contributed as much to the music world as the Beatles?
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Good point
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02-12-2013, 02:10
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Originally Posted by Bren
That's a silly question. If you need to ask it, you won't udnerstand the answer.
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This ^^^^^^ exactly
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02-12-2013, 04:15
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Gaston Glock designed a great pistol and inspired a revolution through out the industry. John Browning Developed several weapon systems that may have changed the outcome of World wars 1 and 2 . John was so far ahead of the game that a 100 years latter almost all of his designs are just as relevant today as they were when he designed them. "Not even close" John Browning > Gaston Glock
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02-12-2013, 05:24
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Originally Posted by countrygun
And here is a personal Glock Salute to Lady Gaga

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02-12-2013, 05:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 21tango
... John Browning Developed several weapon systems that may have changed the outcome of World wars 1 and 2 ...
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Changed the outcome of WW2?? I didn't know the spirit of John Browning did covert design work for the Manhattan Project. I'm always amazed at the things you read on the internet.
Last edited by willieH; 02-12-2013 at 06:04..
Reason: added pic
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02-12-2013, 06:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
And here is a personal Glock Salute to Lady Gaga

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  Just when I thought it was impossible to make a Glock any uglier.
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02-12-2013, 06:14
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Originally Posted by willieH
Changed the outcome of WW2?? I didn't know the spirit of John Browning did covert design work for the Manhattan Project. I'm always amazed at the things you read on the internet.

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That might have been a stretch, but he did say "may have" changed the outcome, due to the great designs.
It surely didn't hurt, I'll say that.
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02-12-2013, 08:21
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Obviously that is a picture from space of a Glock 20 being fired.
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02-12-2013, 08:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willieH
Changed the outcome of WW2?? I didn't know the spirit of John Browning did covert design work for the Manhattan Project. I'm always amazed at the things you read on the internet.

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I'm surprised that you know so little about WW II that you post the mushroom cloud and think that supports what you said.
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02-12-2013, 10:05
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Originally Posted by Bren
I'm surprised that you know so little about WW II that you post the mushroom cloud and think that supports what you said.
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What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.
But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
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02-12-2013, 10:15
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Originally Posted by willieH
What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.
But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
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Well, you could start out with the fact that nearly every "gun" on every American aircraft, fighter, bomber, etc was a Browning design. As was the "Quad .50 anti-aircraft gun.
The BAR shaped squad tactics, and the use of the .30 Browning can't be overlooked at the infantry level.
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
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02-12-2013, 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willieH
What I said was in response to 21Tango's simplistic notion that Browning designed weapons may have effected the outcome of WWII. My equally simplistic answer was to exemplify that other factors played a greater role and had profound consequence to shape the outcome of the war. Sorry not to include Allied battle strategies in Europe/North African campaign, the Soviet and Polish contributions and the Western Pacific naval victories and yes the atomic bomb.
But since you've judged my lack of knowledge, I would welcome your rendition of WWII history that supports 21Tango's notion that Browning designed weapons shaped the wars outcome.
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You really should read Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldiers".
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02-12-2013, 10:26
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Here's the thing - the design that most people associate with Browning - the 1911 - may have been one of the least significant weapons he developed from a historical (ie "changing the results of a battle or war") perspective.
Think about how important the rest of them must have been then!
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02-12-2013, 12:53
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Originally Posted by willieH
Changed the outcome of WW2?? I didn't know the spirit of John Browning did covert design work for the Manhattan Project. I'm always amazed at the things you read on the internet.

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Herman Goring said if he had been able to equip his planes with the Browning 50 cal machine guns, they would have won the battle of Britain.
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02-12-2013, 14:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
On the 1911 ???
Use the mainspring housing pin.
BTW you do know, on the original, you are supposed to use the toe of a mag on the grip screws and the bent small tip on the leaf spring can be used as a screwdriver on the mag release assembly.
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Yep. For the M1911 and M1911A1, you need nothing to break the gun down in detail other what's supplied with the gun.
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02-12-2013, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fnfalman
Yep. For the M1911 and M1911A1, you need nothing to break the gun down in detail other what's supplied with the gun.
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well, opposable thumbs help, but i digress.
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