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Old 02-04-2013, 21:27   #26
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I bet all the panic buyers that were stupid enough to pay up to $3,000 for a plain jane AR are starting to kick their selves right about now...
Not in NYS they aren't. They can't buy an AR anymore. So if they didn't buy one before the ban, they can't have one.

Will that happen nationally? Maybe not this time around, but more individual states are about to sign on and join the Nazi party. Cuomo is leading the axis powers.

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Old 02-05-2013, 08:38   #27
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A few LGS's in my area I expect to have their prices plumett soon. They are stocked with AR's. But since they are all over $1K they aren't selling many.
The hard thing to get now are mags & ammo.
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Old 02-05-2013, 18:17   #28
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I think so also. I managed to sell my Keltec Sub2K last weekend for $800. I figure I wrung that particular trend just about out.

Talk about a great weekend, I picked up this beauty with the money I got from the Keltec.

Winchester Model 101 Diamond Grade (the finest grade they made) Undersingle Trap gun.

Doesn't have a single scratch or dent on it. Looks like it has lived its entire life in the safe. It is going to get used now though (I am an avid trap shooter).

Here is a link to an identical gun on gunsamerica.com Mine has prettier wood.

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http://www.gunsamerica.com/942997285...CHOKES+WCA.htm

I paid $1000 even for it (no tax or papers).
Nice "trade"

You are way ahead on that one sir!
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Old 02-05-2013, 20:00   #29
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I had some jerk come to our table and he said he wanted to sell his to me for $4500.00 to me and I pulled outmy wallet and showed him a one dollar bill for it and his ammo. He was pissed off at me and a few other dealers that talked to this jerk. I quit ordering
ar's beause of what has happened. I have more calls for revolvers,da and sa and,lever and,pump,and,bolt action rifles. Even black powder firearms. And,single stack semi-auto pistols for ccw.
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Old 02-06-2013, 17:00   #30
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I'm afraid there won't be any supply any time soon in Houston, at least at reasonable prices. I saw plenty for $2000+ at a gun show.

One local dealer has a list so long they said essentially:

We have a waiting list, when an AR comes in (regardless of brand or type) they call you and give you 4 hours to claim and pay for it.

I inquired about an FN SCAR, they said at least a year. Their pistol case and shop floor was essentially stripped bare.


TX is quite good for gun rights, but not so great during this rush.



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Old 02-06-2013, 17:12   #31
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I think amateur hour is almost over now as they have blown their wad on overpriced everything.

Prices will recover by April.


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Old 02-07-2013, 18:16   #32
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$800 for a sub2k? I am not big on selling guns once I've acquired them, but for that price I'd hand it over in a heartbeat.
That was what convinced me. I saw people asking $900+ for them and thought hard about it. I just bought a PS90 which is a much cooler gun and haven't shot the Sub2K in a couple of years.

I do miss the fact it fit in a laptop case, otherwise I don't miss it a bit. Not when you consider what selling it funded (that Winchester Model 101).

P.S. I was in the local gun shop (Vance's) and they must have had a dozen ARs hanging on the wall. Pricing was still high, but a lot lower than it has been ($1200 - $1300).

I expect bottom feeder ARs to drop below a $1K this month. I outfitted my Colt AR15-A2 (20" rifle) with a full set of Magpul furniture yesterday. Bravo Company had the UBR stock in FDE for $220 so I jumped at it. I also installed the Moe forearm and a new Magpul grip as well. Really dressed up the old lady (she was made in '92). I am keeping the A2 furniture in case I ever decide to sell the rifle (not a high probability of that).

Must have got the last one of the sale UBR stocks from Bravo Company. Shows as out of stock now.

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Really like that new stock a lot.
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Old 02-07-2013, 20:33   #33
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I'm one of those guys who had to have an AR just incase, but I tried to be somewhat smart about it. I bought a couple lowers for WAY too much, but I'll wait it out for the rest of the parts. The lower is what matters.
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Old 02-07-2013, 20:57   #34
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I still have Colt AR15-A2 20'' with a 3x scope that says Colt on it with a bullet drop comp that I bought new right before the last ban. it probably has less than 200 rounds through it. I bought an H-Bar also but sold it when I someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse. with the last ban I seen them go to over 1800.00 over night. there wasn't very many different brands back then like there is now.
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Old 02-07-2013, 21:10   #35
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I'm one of those guys who had to have an AR just incase, but I tried to be somewhat smart about it. I bought a couple lowers for WAY too much, but I'll wait it out for the rest of the parts. The lower is what matters.
Good plan IMO.
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Old 02-08-2013, 00:26   #36
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No doubt, ammo is still impossible to find but it will return. Production is at full capacity I would guess and we will see it hitting the shelves within the next month or two.

ARs are starting to slowly show back up in shops around here.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=328231373

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=328259592

Prices are dropping on the ole 6920. I don't think either of these NIB 6920s will hit $2000. A couple of weeks ago they would have hit $2200-$2300. It's a start back to pre-mess times anyways.
I still see FN 5.7 for 1800 or so and Ars going high in some areas. Ammo is in tight supply and I think that the market will remain tight until next year because of the fear of the libtards. I still see Ar for over 2k on regular units.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:56   #37
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Second Amendment Sports in Bakersfield has a bunch of cheezy ninja-rized ARs on the wall marked for like $3000-4000. Still sitting there after several weeks. I guess Californians ain't as dumb as other staters.
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... I guess Californians ain't as dumb as other staters.
No, they're just broke.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:35   #39
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Just as the panic started my lgs was selling RRA Operators for around $900, and he had a couple of LMT's for around $1100. I picked up LMT's in 556 and 308 at below retail.
I went to dinner last night with a guy who went to the same LGS the very next day. I couldn't believe what he told me. They had raised the price of the RRA to $1800, and he bought one! That was pretty sickening to hear.
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Consider that most of them are illegals on welfare, methinks that it's you that's broke for supporting them.
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Some guy asked me if I was interested in his AR just a few days ago. We didn't get far enough to even know what type it was. I asked him what he was trying to get for it? He was somewhere North of $2k. I told him I would have to pass.

I do know another who payed about $2,300 just weeks ago for a slightly used one.
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Just as the panic started my lgs was selling RRA Operators for around $900, and he had a couple of LMT's for around $1100. I picked up LMT's in 556 and 308 at below retail.
I went to dinner last night with a guy who went to the same LGS the very next day. I couldn't believe what he told me. They had raised the price of the RRA to $1800, and he bought one! That was pretty sickening to hear.
that same thing happened in 94 around here with a local gun shop, two years later they went out of business. they had been in business for over thirty years but the locals that supported them before that quit.
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Just as the panic started my lgs was selling RRA Operators for around $900, and he had a couple of LMT's for around $1100. I picked up LMT's in 556 and 308 at below retail.
I went to dinner last night with a guy who went to the same LGS the very next day. I couldn't believe what he told me. They had raised the price of the RRA to $1800, and he bought one! That was pretty sickening to hear.
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Got two emails from BCM today, one for a upper in stock and on for BCGs in stock. PSA had uppers in stock yesterday. I heard BCM had them in stock yesterday as well.

I have gotten spring kits, mags, ammo and other AR parts the past two weeks all at MSRP as well. Things are looking better, not good or great but better. This is exactly how 2008/2009 turned and started to get better.

With production ramped up fully as it is guns, gear and ammo will arrive on shelves and outpace demand eventually this year IMO.
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I went to a gun shop around an hour away from my house today. They had 5 or 6 ar's, but the prices were like 1700 or more for all of them. They had base Colt 6720's for 1700 before tax. Clydes, one of my lgs, sells those new right now for 1300 when they have em in stock. And thats after the 150 price increase they put on them after the scare.
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I still have Colt AR15-A2 20'' with a 3x scope that says Colt on it with a bullet drop comp that I bought new right before the last ban. it probably has less than 200 rounds through it. I bought an H-Bar also but sold it when I someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse. with the last ban I seen them go to over 1800.00 over night. there wasn't very many different brands back then like there is now.
Would you be willing to part with the scope? I have been looking for that exact scope.
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Got two emails from BCM today, one for a upper in stock and on for BCGs in stock. PSA had uppers in stock yesterday. I heard BCM had them in stock yesterday as well.

I have gotten spring kits, mags, ammo and other AR parts the past two weeks all at MSRP as well. Things are looking better, not good or great but better. This is exactly how 2008/2009 turned and started to get better.

With production ramped up fully as it is guns, gear and ammo will arrive on shelves and outpace demand eventually this year IMO.
Problem is that if you are like the 15 other people I heard from, that email for an in stock BCM BCG got to you 3+ hours after they actually went back in stock on the website...and they only lasted on the wesbsite for 21 minutes. And I am fairly certain that those 21 minutes are the only time this year a BCM BCG has been available from BCM. And they were $225 + about $13 in shipping.

The PSA uppers lasted about as long, IIRC.

Eventually this year? Probably so, yes. But it's barely February.
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Problem is that if you are like the 15 other people I heard from, that email for an in stock BCM BCG got to you 3+ hours after they actually went back in stock on the website...and they only lasted on the wesbsite for 21 minutes. And I am fairly certain that those 21 minutes are the only time this year a BCM BCG has been available from BCM. And they were $225 + about $13 in shipping.

The PSA uppers lasted about as long, IIRC.

Eventually this year? Probably so, yes. But it's barely February.
No doubt they sold quickly but the fact that they even had them is a sign IMO. Just as in 08/09 it was totally dry, then a small trickle, then a stream and then a flood of stuff on the market.
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Problem is that if you are like the 15 other people I heard from, that email for an in stock BCM BCG got to you 3+ hours after they actually went back in stock on the website...and they only lasted on the wesbsite for 21 minutes. And I am fairly certain that those 21 minutes are the only time this year a BCM BCG has been available from BCM. And they were $225 + about $13 in shipping.

The PSA uppers lasted about as long, IIRC.

Eventually this year? Probably so, yes. But it's barely February.
The delay in the email didn't happen to everyone, it's some kind of software glitch or network issue with the service BCM uses for those updates. Primary Arms uses the same system, and they have had the same problem in the past.

Also, that was not the first time they were in stock this year, as I can remember at least one batch in January.
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No doubt they sold quickly but the fact that they even had them is a sign IMO. Just as in 08/09 it was totally dry, then a small trickle, then a stream and then a flood of stuff on the market.
Of course they have them. I mean, it's not like production completely stopped...it's not like they are releasing many (any??) complete rifles...and it's not like any of their 'complete' uppers have included BCGs recently, either.

21 minutes of availability one time when they hadn't been on the website, I don't think, since mid-late December...not really very available.


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The delay in the email didn't happen to everyone, it's some kind of software glitch or network issue with the service BCM uses for those updates. Primary Arms uses the same system, and they have had the same problem in the past.

Also, that was not the first time they were in stock this year, as I can remember at least one batch in January.
There are just too many email addresses signed up, I am sure.




And it's not that I am complaining about it as I have been as fortunate as anybody regarding picking up BCM stuff when it flashed into stock this year, but, well, BCM stuff from BCM just isn't something you can really count on or tell other people to count on. Unless you are looking at a ~6 month window, anyway.

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