[Bob Hafler]

Originally Posted by Gaston Glock

Yes, yes I am!

Now that is funny.

[bac1023]

This thread is actual quit entertaining.

I'd say Mongo has quite a bit to learn...

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by michael_b

I thought is was the Remington Nylon 66- that came out in the very late 50's.


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I was referring to handguns. ( I see somehow I dropped the "For handguns" when I submitted) I have a '59 nylon. and I think you will also find that Winchester made a shotgun in the 50s that had a fiberglass barrel sleeved with steel.

[checkyoursix]

To the OP: you are either trolling, or really should read up a bit. In case you won't read, an image might put things into perspective for you.

[SpringerTGO]

I've heard people say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but the title of this thread might be an exception.

[checkyoursix]

Originally Posted by SpringerTGO

I've heard people say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but the title of this thread might be an exception.

I always found that statement condescending. There are stupid questions (in this case in the sense of total lack of due diligence), and this was definitively one.

[ilgunguygt]

Originally Posted by bac1023

This thread is actual quit entertaining.

I'd say Mongo has quite a bit to learn...

Mongo is either uneducated on the design accomplishments of JMB or he is not smart enough to understand it. The fact that Browning made the things he did with the technology of 100 years or more ago is amazing.

[ilgunguygt]

Originally Posted by checkyoursix

To the OP: you are either trolling, or really should read up a bit. In case you won't read, an image might put things into perspective for you.

Originally Posted by SpringerTGO

I've heard people say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but the title of this thread might be an exception.

Originally Posted by checkyoursix

I always found that statement condescending. There are stupid questions (in this case in the sense of total lack of due diligence), and this was definitively one.

I dont believe the OP to be a troll or stupid. I believe he was asking this question on a glock forum and 1911 forum to see what the difference in answer would be. If you had the same answer on both that could be quite telling. If you had the answer of glock on the glock board and JMB on the 1911 board that would point a lot more to Kool Aid.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

Mongo is either uneducated on the design accomplishments of JMB or he is not smart enough to understand it. The fact that Browning made the things he did with the technology of 100 years or more ago is amazing.

Very true

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by SpringerTGO

I've heard people say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but the title of this thread might be an exception.

I'm with the other poster on this. That old saying needs to be S***canned. It underestimates the power of human stupidity.

[michael_b]

Originally Posted by countrygun

I was referring to handguns. ( I see somehow I dropped the "For handguns" when I submitted) I have a '59 nylon. and I think you will also find that Winchester made a shotgun in the 50s that had a fiberglass barrel sleeved with steel.

Ahh got ya. Interesting, I wasn't aware of either of those, thanks Gun!


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[Bren]

Originally Posted by SpringerTGO

I've heard people say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but the title of this thread might be an exception.

I like the South Park version:

[mongo356]

Call me whatever names make you feel better inside.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Call me whatever names make you feel better inside.

I just chalk it up to total and utter ignorance, actually.

Some people just can't be taught. Some people are just not worth teaching...

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by mongo356

Call me whatever names make you feel better inside.

Refer to having your ignorance challenged as "Calling you names" if it makes you feel better.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Gaston Glock

Yes, yes I am!

[method]

Originally Posted by countrygun

Refer to having your ignorance challenged as "Calling you names" if it makes you feel better.

At this point it's willful ignorance, which is waaaayyy worse.

One needn't be a card carrying 1911 fanatic to realize, without thinking much, that Glock is nowhere near Browning's level as far as gun design is concerned. I actually prefer a Glock to a 1911, but really now.

Glock invented a pretty good service pistol that's been very popular over the last few decades. Browning provided the groundwork for damn near everything firearms related, save revolvers and bolt action rifles, that's come out in the last 125 years or so. Like someone already said, without Browning, there is no Glock.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by method

At this point it's willful ignorance, which is waaaayyy worse.

One needn't be a card carrying 1911 fanatic to realize, without thinking much, that Glock is nowhere near Browning's level as far as gun design is concerned. I actually prefer a Glock to a 1911, but really now.

Glock invented a pretty good service pistol that's been very popular over the last few decades. Browning provided the groundwork for damn near everything firearms related, save revolvers and bolt action rifles, that's come out in the last 125 years or so. Like someone already said, without Browning, there is no Glock.

Very good post

[ticshooter]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

I dont believe the OP to be a troll or stupid. I believe he was asking this question on a glock forum and 1911 forum to see what the difference in answer would be. If you had the same answer on both that could be quite telling. If you had the answer of glock on the glock board and JMB on the 1911 board that would point a lot more to Kool Aid.

You couldn't be more correct!! I asked the same question on both forums because I thought it would be interesting to see if I would get the same answer... Like someone said, this has been an entertaining post...

[mongo356]

Originally Posted by method

At this point it's willful ignorance, which is waaaayyy worse.

One needn't be a card carrying 1911 fanatic to realize, without thinking much, that Glock is nowhere near Browning's level as far as gun design is concerned. I actually prefer a Glock to a 1911, but really now.

Glock invented a pretty good service pistol that's been very popular over the last few decades. Browning provided the groundwork for damn near everything firearms related, save revolvers and bolt action rifles, that's come out in the last 125 years or so. Like someone already said, without Browning, there is no Glock.

I don't see this.

Glock designed a reliable, easy peasy firearm, bubbits or design team aside Glock has his name on the gun. Is Glock the greatest no, but he's probably copied as much as Browning. Is there any company left that's not trying to make a Glock like polymer/striker style gun?

Browning designed the locking system, ok that’s great. So did every bow Fred Bear make, was that a copy from the Native Indians after all they made one first?

China came up with gunpowder, so is every gun that uses gun powder a Chinese copy? Maybe the guy that first used a lead bullet everyone copies that too......

Browning’s designs were good. They were also specialized and somewhat difficult, they kept gun smiths in work for a lot of years. You could possibly rob parts from another gun and maybe it would work, maybe it would take some craftsmanship to fit the part to make it work reliably.

I tried to give Browning his due so some of you folks wouldn't get upset, apparently I gotta drink the entire Browning salmon juice and nothing else. Can we just agree to disagree?

I think I wrote several posts back that I don't know every Browning design like the back of my hand like some of you, but from some replies apparently you are not that familiar with the Glock design as well.

[glock2740]

Originally Posted by checkyoursix

To the OP: you are either trolling, or really should read up a bit. In case you won't read, an image might put things into perspective for you.

Great post. Gaston made Agreat gun. JMB made many.

[ilgunguygt]

Originally Posted by mongo356

I don't see this.

Glock designed a reliable, easy peasy firearm, bubbits or design team aside Glock has his name on the gun. Is Glock the greatest no, but he's probably copied as much as Browning. Is there any company left that's not trying to make a Glock like polymer/striker style gun?

Browning designed the locking system, ok that’s great. So did every bow Fred Bear make, was that a copy from the Native Indians after all they made one first?

China came up with gunpowder, so is every gun that uses gun powder a Chinese copy? Maybe the guy that first used a lead bullet everyone copies that too......

Browning’s designs were good. They were also specialized and somewhat difficult, they kept gun smiths in work for a lot of years. You could possibly rob parts from another gun and maybe it would work, maybe it would take some craftsmanship to fit the part to make it work reliably.

I tried to give Browning his due so some of you folks wouldn't get upset, apparently I gotta drink the entire Browning salmon juice and nothing else. Can we just agree to disagree?

I think I wrote several posts back that I don't know every Browning design like the back of my hand like some of you, but from some replies apparently you are not that familiar with the Glock design as well.

Except glock copied the striker fired/polymer thing. Maybe you vcould tell us what glock did FIRST, before everyone else?You seem to be of the opinion that a 1911 is a super finicky and difficult firearm. In its combat form this couldnt be further from the truth.

[fnfalman]

Gaston Glock didn't design squat. The dude that designed his gun went to design the Caracal. Gaston Glock may ow Glock, Inc. which is responsible for the pistol but he isn't a gun designer.


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[countrygun]

Originally Posted by method

At this point it's willful ignorance, which is waaaayyy worse.

One needn't be a card carrying 1911 fanatic to realize, without thinking much, that Glock is nowhere near Browning's level as far as gun design is concerned. I actually prefer a Glock to a 1911, but really now.

Glock invented a pretty good service pistol that's been very popular over the last few decades. Browning provided the groundwork for damn near everything firearms related, save revolvers and bolt action rifles, that's come out in the last 125 years or so. Like someone already said, without Browning, there is no Glock.

It's as if he is trying to argue that The Chinese space program is better than anything the US did because it is newer and stole US technology

[mongo356]

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

Except glock copied the striker fired/polymer thing.

ORLY?? Copied it close enough to get sued like S&W did?

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

Maybe you vcould tell us what glock did FIRST, before everyone else?

Captured a large overseas military market, an LE market in the U.S.A. that he still has more than 65% of and seems to hold that position well. All of which made him very wealthy and at the same time really po's most JMB fans. Created ONE firearm that still draws more controversy/ attention than most domestic brands.

Originally Posted by ilgunguygt

You seem to be of the opinion that a 1911 is a super finicky and difficult firearm. In its combat form this couldnt be further from the truth.

I'm sorry did you read 1911 somewhere in my post? But to answer your question I haven’t seen any combat or combat1911's in use, just the custom models that seem to be the rage these days.