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02-08-2013, 11:28
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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Man arrested after taking gun out at Sanford day care center
Man arrested after taking gun out at Sanford day care center
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...nford-d/nWJPg/
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We need to ensure our friends & family who carry know their laws, follow those laws, and get refreshed on those laws.
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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02-08-2013, 11:45
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I agree that people need to be informed and receive refresher training yo deal with all the complications of carrying a firearm.
I am sure many inexperienced gun owners have made innocent mistakes.
Taking a weapon out to show it off is one of the things one does not do anywhere. It only invites problems and, in some cases, legal problems.
Additionally, a dumb lack of judgement is not the same as a deliberate criminal act. Our prosecutors should be able to differentiate between criminal intentions and a mistake.
I do not know what this incident details will turn out to be, and there is not enough said. Still, it does not seem the gun owner had criminal intent or the desire to harm others.
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02-08-2013, 17:44
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Originally Posted by TBO
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I couldn't agree more that friends and family need to know the laws. That being said how many of us remember a couple guys in our CPL classes that were more than likely to run into an issue with LE and give the rest of us a bad name.
Laws can state that you have no criminal\felony record however the laws say nothing about having common sense or a quiz on no carry zones.
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02-08-2013, 21:53
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It is not a good idea to expose your gun, play with your gun, talk about your gun, etc. in public.
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02-08-2013, 22:27
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
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02-09-2013, 00:35
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Geezer Boomer
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In the immortal words of the genius Forest Gump "mama always said that stupid is as stupid does."
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02-09-2013, 06:11
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too many newbies carrying these days...with little to no training.....or, common sense.
Back in the day, we used to have a name for people that felt a need to show everyone their weapon. It was called John Wayne syndrome.
At gun stores, I think the majority of people put their fingers right on the trigger when they are handed a weapon.
This is why I don't go to gun shows anymore.
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02-09-2013, 07:11
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His Concealed Carry training and the handouts provided told him this was a No-No.
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02-09-2013, 19:25
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It reminds me of why I believe every American citizen should go through the military before they go out into the world.
And my radical viewpoint is that if everyone went into the Marine Corps at age eighteen it would be a better world all around - oohrah!!!
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02-09-2013, 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim S.
It reminds me of why I believe every American citizen should go through the military before they go out into the world.
And my radical viewpoint is that if everyone went into the Marine Corps at age eighteen it would be a better world all around - oohrah!!!
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I'll go long with that. It just may help them make a better decision when voting, too.
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02-10-2013, 04:38
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Originally Posted by TBO
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What a freaking idiot, but I have to say there are thousands just like this guy walking around carrying in this country.
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02-10-2013, 04:41
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Originally Posted by TBO
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maybe they will rescind his CWP before he makes headlines again. Seems like Sanford had another case that stays in the news.
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02-10-2013, 04:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim S.
It reminds me of why I believe every American citizen should go through the military before they go out into the world.
And my radical viewpoint is that if everyone went into the Marine Corps at age eighteen it would be a better world all around - oohrah!!!
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If everybody did, or could, go into the Marine Corps, the Marine Corps wouldn't be what it is - it might better the person, but it would destroy the military. Only a minority of Americans can qualify to serve in the military, even if they want to, and some say the standards still need to be higher.
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02-10-2013, 05:26
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iWhat?
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Ok, the legalities of side... Did that dudes mugshot set off anyone else's "creep meter" ?
Sure did mine.
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02-10-2013, 05:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak
Ok, the legalities of side... Did that dudes mugshot set off anyone else's "creep meter" ?
Sure did mine.
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Yes, I have a digital creep meter and it pegged out to max with a loud beeping tone which I have never heard before
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02-10-2013, 08:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mortpes
It is not a good idea to expose your gun, play with your gun, talk about your gun, etc. in public.
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In Public
Expose your gun: Not a problem in my state.
Play with your gun: Very bad idea. Could easily lead to a charge of brandishing.
Talk about your gun: Nothing wrong here. People do it all the time where I live.
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02-10-2013, 09:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottieG59
Additionally, a dumb lack of judgement is not the same as a deliberate criminal act. Our prosecutors should be able to differentiate between criminal intentions and a mistake.
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Here in gun-friendly AZ, that would be a reckless display of a firearm. Here's the definition of criminal negligence from the Model Penal Code:
"A person acts negligently with respect to a material element of an offense when he should be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the material element exists or will result from his conduct. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the actor's failure to perceive it, considering the nature and purpose of his conduct and the circumstances known to him, involves a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the actor's situation."
There's a similar definition for criminal recklessness. So, yes, there actually is such a thing as "criminal stupidity".
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02-10-2013, 12:18
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What an ignorant idiot!
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