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Old 02-08-2013, 07:13   #41
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Hopefully he gets caught before he does more harm.
You know that's not likely to happen. If he can survive the elements, he'll have the advantage.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:42   #42
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I would definitely not be getting out of my patrol car without a long gun.

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:16   #43
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:20   #44
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I read his "manifesto" last night. IF you were to believe the specifics of the incidents (e.g., officer kicks suspect in the head), how does a person attempt to rationalize murder? It's a rhetorical question...just pointing out that this guy has really lost it.

Ironically, he goes through great lengths in an attempt to demonstrate that his actions are justified because his "name" has been tarnished...while at one time, he worked in LE where often times people attempt to justify their actions for similar reasons - e.g., gang-related activities.

Hopefully he gets caught before he does more harm; however I expect this is going to take some time. He obviously wanted the truck found, and he knows about the tactics of the people that he has triggered to hunt him.
The fact is this guy has been pushed to the edge. He lost his LEO job. He lost his Navy reserve job. He also feels he was falsely accused of lying. So the three things that were apparently important or indispensable to him are gone. He has nothing else to live for.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:30   #45
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Quick update: I'm ok. It's a little hectic. Our Division is fully involved. Since the suspect is still outstanding, I am not at liberty to discuss our involvement. Suffice to say, I'm getting very little sleep. Hope to have more later.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:33   #46
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Quick update: I'm ok. It's a little hectic. Our Division is fully involved. Since the suspect is still outstanding, I am not at liberty to discuss our involvement. Suffice to say, I'm getting very little sleep. Hope to have more later.
Thank you for the work you do. My prayers are with all the officers in Southern California. I went to college with 4-5 outstanding guys who are now LAPD and 1-2 who are now LASD.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:42   #47
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A good leader/boss would tell those directly named in this "manifesto" to stay home and protect their home and family. Screw the job, screw the manhunt. Protect home. Call in guys on overtime to fill the void those guys would leave on shift. I know if I was called to overtime so a coworker could stay home to protect his family, I would be in my car minutes after I hung up the phone.
Or volunteer to be assigned as extra help for those directly threatened. Departments can survive shagging calls for service, being a couple of people down.

This guy is a greater threat to the general public. If he is hunting LEO's what is to stop him from killing a citizen who he thinks has spotted him?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:53   #48
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Prayers for those affected.

Stay safe out there for all the LE in the area. Watch your back.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:09   #49
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An even better boss would say that they are on duty, assigned to foot patrol at their own residence until further notice.
LAPD foot patrol requires the wearing of the Class A hat, but no appointment.

Okay, just trying to bring a bit of levity.

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I would definitely not be getting out of my patrol car without a long gun.

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This guy supposedly owns multiple AR type weapons, silencers, and a Barrett BMG, plus whatever else he has gotten along the way, plus he's got nothing to lose. How do you even guard against something like that... man... the only thing that would work now is I am hoping all the luck in the world and God almighty himself protects all those out there.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:24   #50
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I don't know that there's an easy way to guard against the threat, short of holing up in a bunker or going out of town to visit family in the next state.

But, and I'm sure this is being done since LAPD isn't exactly known for standing idly by, we need to put this idiot on the defensive. Send teams of officers out to actively hunt for him. Start putting pressure on him by any means, and I'm sure the press releases are only one tool being used. Plaster his face up on every TV screen and internet news site out there. Put his name out on the radio, and start offering a decent reward for someone who turns him in.

In short, make it hard for him to hide, or to get support from others. As I said, I'm sure LAPD has already implemented this strategy - and we don't need to know what they're doing. But, the best way to defend against a guy like this, is to put him on the defensive. Actively hunt this SOB down, and put him in the ground as you would a rabid dog.

Good luck, and may God be watching over our brethren and their families - especially now.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:34   #51
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LAPD foot patrol requires the wearing of the Class A hat, but no appointment.
Given the situation, the policy should immediately be revised to substitute the Class A hat for a level IIIA or better helmet.



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Is he running? Or is he drawing the enemy in?
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Quick update: I'm ok. It's a little hectic. Our Division is fully involved. Since the suspect is still outstanding, I am not at liberty to discuss our involvement. Suffice to say, I'm getting very little sleep. Hope to have more later.
Watch your ass, man, and good hunting.
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Why do police think he may be in Arizona?

Something specific or just to kill leos at random?
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They aren't going to tell the public.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:09   #56
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They aren't going to tell the public.
No way in hell they should say anything.

Sorry John Q. Public, but just stay hunkered down and wait.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:16   #57
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Why do police think he may be in Arizona?

Something specific or just to kill leos at random?
I don't think anyone has been killed/shot at random. He published a list* of folks that he wants to go after, and it sounds like there have been a few moments of "opportunity" when he thought a few cops were close to him.

Regardless of how irrational his actions are, so far he seems to be behaving rationally within his own set of rules. Not randomly, I think, or there would be a lot more news of people hurt or killed.

Not that I have any insight, I'm just a keyboard commando. I'm not in that area, and I'm not LEO, so my opinions weigh very little.

For those who ARE involved, I'm not sure how you keep your head down AND on a swivel, but do your best to do both.
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The fact is this guy has been pushed to the edge. He lost his LEO job. He lost his Navy reserve job. He also feels he was falsely accused of lying. So the three things that were apparently important or indispensable to him are gone. He has nothing else to live for.
I think those forced that caused his displacement from center to the "edge" where wholly internal. CLEARLY, he is grossly unbalanced. He has interpreted actions and statements that are made tens of thousands of times over daily to other people who don't decide the world is oblong and want to fix it.

Unfortunately, life is not like TV. We can't follow the script from "NCIS L.A." or CSI to catch this guy. Chances are, if he's not already seriously wounded or dead, he is going to cause some collateral damage and hurt before he is put down.

Guys, be alert.
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...hopefully he does not have access to secure police comms...
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I am not a fan of drones for "normal patrols", but this is not normal.
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