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Old 02-07-2013, 18:54   #41
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I disagree with everyone here. John Browning NEVER was never talented enough to design a pistol that shot a projectile down the barrel while at the same time geometrically eject a casing that will strike you right between the eyes. Gaston has that market cornered.



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Old 02-07-2013, 19:01   #42
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With all due respect to Gaston, I believe John Browning to be unsurpassed by anyone ever in this field...

Go through Browning's achievement and products concieved by his own mind and built by his own hands, and you can find a group of guns to handle any need from small game, to african dangerous, to shooting down enemy aircraft...

I don't belive their is a firearm designer even to this day that doesn't have a John M. Browning portrait tattooed on at least one butt cheek..
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Old 02-07-2013, 19:03   #43
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Nope. Glock has designed basically one pistol. Changing the caliber, barrel or grip length does not make it a new weapon. He did design a good one (or at least whoever he hired did), but that doesn't begin to compare with Brownings contributions to weapons design.
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Old 02-07-2013, 19:04   #44
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Without John Browning, there would be no Glock pistol.
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Old 02-07-2013, 19:25   #45
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Without John Browning, there would be no Glock pistol.
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Old 02-07-2013, 19:37   #46
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I disagree with everyone here. John Browning NEVER was never talented enough to design a pistol that shot a projectile down the barrel while at the same time geometrically eject a casing that will strike you right between the eyes. Gaston has that market cornered.



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But didn't some of his lever and pump action rifle designs do just that?


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Old 02-07-2013, 19:49   #47
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What has GG done since the G17? Honestly nothing but shorten this our that part. Great design no doubt but it is just that, a single design.

JMB......Taking away the 1911 (which I personally believe was designed by the Almighty himself and not JMB!) JMB still has this bad boy in his corner among many many others.

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This alone rockets him past GG in firearms design. Almost 100 years old and still the king of MGs in todays world.

GG may or may not still have his designs still in use 100 years after their design, JMB has several still in use, and not going anywhere soon.
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Old 02-07-2013, 19:57   #48
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But didn't some of his lever and pump action rifle designs do just that?


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Note the "At the same time..."

He could never get his semi designs to do it, no matter how hard he tried.
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Interesting side note on Gaston Glock; It is said that he test fired his G1, G2, G3 etc etc, with his left hand in case of catastrophic failure.
Even a curtain rod maker with a chip on his shoulder should have been able to figure out a remote firing system. But so goes the tale...
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No. John Browning was a firearms master. His designs were radically apart from anything else being done in his day. He came as close to re-inventing firearms as anyone in history has. His lock-breech design is used in virtually every semi-auto pistol to this day, including Glock.


Gaston Glock is a toolmaker who made a fantastic, and utterly reliable tool which shoots bullets. I would say Gaston's most important contribution has been in materials which pistols (now) are made out of, and precision manufacturing.
Not really. Glock missed making the first plastic firearm by many years. Everyone talks about innovation, but it wasnt really that innovative.
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Interesting side note on Gaston Glock; It is said that he test fired his G1, G2, G3 etc etc, with his left hand in case of catastrophic failure.
Even a curtain rod maker with a chip on his shoulder should have been able to figure out a remote firing system. But so goes the tale...




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GG designed one gun. ONE

He also designed the .45 GAP. That round really changed the pistol world, didn't it?
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Certainly not. Your fan boy brain just exploded.
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He also designed the .45 GAP. That round really changed the pistol world, didn't it?
Very true
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Old 02-07-2013, 20:46   #55
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Gaston Glock is a toolmaker who made a fantastic, and utterly reliable tool which shoots bullets. I would say Gaston's most important contribution has been in materials which pistols (now) are made out of, and precision manufacturing.
GG did not invent the polymer pistol. HK built the designed the first polymer frame pistol a good decade before.
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GG did not invent the polymer pistol. HK built the designed the first polymer frame pistol a good decade before.
Yes I know. He did build the first widely popular polymer handgun though.


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Certainly not. Your fan boy brain just exploded.
Very succinct.
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Very true, but he shouldn't be mentioned inthe same sentence as JMB.
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Old 02-07-2013, 21:27   #59
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Very true, but he shouldn't be mentioned inthe same sentence as JMB.



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