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Old 02-05-2013, 22:52   #21
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I'm playin' the hand I got

I don't reload yet, I'm not that far invested to justify reload. If the supply chain gets broken then I'm screwed. I do need to stock up as I only have a few hundred rounds of 9mm, 38sp, and 22lr. Did I get caught with my pants down when the shortage hit? Where I sit now, no. I would rather spend my disposable income on other pursuits right now, does not matter anyway, ammo is in limited supply. Should the SHTF tomorrow or within 3 months, then yes my answer would change. Last year disposable income was spent on acquiring guns. This year will be ammo stockpile. And maybe the year after that it will be reloading. I'm gone from home for work a lot, the amount of food I keep on hand is probably less than 1 week. I am considering stocking up about 1 or 2 months worth of Wise freeze dried food as a prep. I have 125 gal hold tank of water in my basement, considering collecting rain water or incorporating a collection system of rain water when I do a remodel job this summer, routing it to my basement for collection.

For me gun ownership and shooting are a luxury hobby. It is not going to run my life and I'm not going to fret because I have not been able to find ammo or go to the range now when it is 20*F outside. I'll survive.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:55   #22
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It is making me think about diversifying. I have enough for now, but having more options is good if I want to restock. I might add a 40 to my pistol options. I would like to add a .223 rifle to my 7.62*39. Also want an enfield and mosin to shoot some stock I have. But the current situation has really increased the value of having a broader set of options to my mind anyway.
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Old 02-06-2013, 00:07   #23
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I have all the most common handgun calibers, and a few others, and ammo stashes for all. I only have 12 gauge, 7.62 X 39, 308 and 22lr in rifles but I have stashes for those too.
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Old 02-06-2013, 00:19   #24
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Just goes to show that if you haven't stored up some ammo before shtf, panic......it's already too late!



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Exactly.. I have 14,000 rounds of 9mm
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Old 02-06-2013, 00:52   #25
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so i've been of the mindset all along that 9mm, 223, 762x39, etc were great calibers in the US for SHTF type weapons, because they are staples and sold everywhere, in large qtys.

now, even without a SHTF scenario (just a panic), they are very hard to find, limited in selection, and/or very expensive when available....while the more obscure calibers are still on the shelves. do we have this all wrong? should we be thinking about finding something we like that's less common, so that it might still be possible to go to cabelas, gander mtn, etc and find something in an emergency?
There is still FAR MORE of it out there than other cartridges.

And I still say it'll mostly be a 'run what ya brung' anyway.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:18   #26
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Yea. Since I could not find 308, I sold my AR and bought an IMI Uzi. I can find ARs anytime, Uzis I cannot. But I found 9mm easier to obtain during this rush than 308.


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Old 02-06-2013, 07:08   #27
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That is why you stock up when prices are low. Last summer I bought 2K of Lake City M193 ammo for $0.289 a shot. I also bought 2K of Blazer Brass 9mm practice ammo at $0.20 a shot around the same time. I also bought 500 rounds of Federal HST carry ammo last summer at $0.50 a shot as well.

Every time the local gun shop had .22LR on sale I would pick up a brick or two (I haven't counted, but I probably have more than 10K of rim fire).

This is not the first time I have been to this rodeo. The only ammo I am buying now is 5.7x28mm since I just added a PS90 to my stable. Torques me off to no end, but that is the way things go sometimes. I can assure you I will have adequate stocks of 5.7 before the next scare.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:30   #28
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for handgun, i'm seriously thinking of adding a 40s&w, thats all thats left on the shelves here.
A few years back when shelves were bare, online and locally, the only thing that was relatively easy to find (range and self defense flavors) was .40 S&W (when compared to 9mm and .45 ACP).
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:37   #29
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Panics like this are not uncommon. The comments above about "the next crisis" have a basis in fact...they'll always be with us.

Like many GT'ers, I have a substantial supply of my "go to" caliber, and see no need to change at all.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:40   #30
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Just goes to show that if you haven't stored up some ammo before shtf, panic......it's already too late!



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I agree 100%!

my goto caliber is 7.62 x39, which I have about 7000 rounds of, and I have been buying it and storing it up since 2005 after AWB1 ended in 2004.

if you didn't start preparing then, you should have started in 2008 when Obama was elected. If you didn't start in 2008 and you are waiting till now, you're probably screwed.

the SHTF scenario we have all been preparing for is probably going to happen within the next few years. if by some miracle it doesn't happen with Obama, it will certainly happen with Hillary in office!


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Old 02-06-2013, 08:03   #31
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Just goes to show that if you haven't stored up some ammo before shtf, panic......it's already too late!



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No you are good, just find the folks stockpiling ammo to resale at 300% cost. They are not trained, just greedy. They will give up cases of ammo for a cheeseburger.

To the OP, I think everyone thought 9mm, 223/5.56/7.62X39/7.62/.308 at the same time. I have not seen a box of 9mm ammo on a shelf in a month.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:31   #32
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I reload my 38s for competition, no issue there. My carry gun is a g26, and I keep enough, but I've ordered a g30 gen 4 45 cap, cause there's plenty on the shelf and I know plenty of reloaders Also, good excuse to buy another gun. With all my CAS guns, I don't buy anything I don't shoot often.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:35   #33
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For me, .40s&w has continued to be the easiest pistol round to find around here. And that happens to be my go-to round, so I'm glad to have what I have.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:37   #34
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I buy ammo every payday and have a good stock of what I need. My main ccw pistol is a 357 Sig and its often the only ammo on the shelf at my local Wal-Mart. While I already have plenty I have still purchased some extra since this current panic started. I have been buying mostly shotgun ammo though.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:52   #35
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Nowadays, the last caliber I would buy is a .223, because it's the first one everyone hoards and the last one you'll find whenever there's a lib-tard induced run on ammo.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:14   #36
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Choosing a caliber based on panic-buying is not intelligent. As said above, there will always be another panic sometime later. And caliber popularity changes. Fifteen years ago, you could buy .308 cheaper than 5.56, and it was much more common in smaller stores. Thirty years ago, 7.62x39 was very hard to come buy. Just four years later it was the cheapest stuff around.

Choose your calibers based on realistic factors. Does the cartridge do what you need it to do? Can you buy it in decent quantities during normal times? Do you have firearms that suit your purpose in that caliber? Can you reload it?

When times are normal, I buy at least twice what I will shoot. If I plan to shoot 500rds per month, I budget for 1000rds/month. And be a smart shopper! Ammo is almost always cheaper by the case. Save up and get a case at a time!

BTW, I'm already starting to see ammo trickling back into stores.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:29   #37
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YES, but i always tried to stay with very common ammo calibers that are easy to buy.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:50   #38
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About two years ago, I got into 9mm...before that, I was collecting .40 and .45. Before that, I was collecting .223 and .308. This new panic buying caused me to buy a new safe just for ammo. After inventorying my stock, I now see that I need more .223. I guess I will just be patient and wait for the panic to die down. Eventually, I need to load up on .223.

Having just a few boxes on hand is insane. It's funny, before the panic...I looked at what I had and thought that maybe I was a fool. No way was i ever gonna shoot all this. Now I look at my stock and know that I am a fool. I have not bought enough.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:28   #39
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I solved this ammo shortage problem by only hoarding calibers that can be reloaded with Black Powder. 38 Special, 45 Colt, 303 British, etc.

I also store my urine in 5 gallon buckets in case I have to make my own Black Powder! LOL.

This shortage will end and when it does, start to put aside some ammo then. Remember a year or two back when we couldn't find 380 ACP?
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Old 02-06-2013, 13:19   #40
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This panic Is by far the worst I have seen. I am 62 and have been into guns most of my life.

I thought back when I started to buy guns in planed calibers my thought was that any thing the military bought would always be in stock.

My thinking was off, wrong, or just not thought out all the way. The military has dibs on all ammo. They have placed contracts for so much ammo. The ammo Co. will honer there contacts regardless what we want or need. The military comes first as it should. Then there is contracts for other departments such as FBI, HLS, CIA and a hole lot of others police and such. Then after all the contracts are met we can get what they sell to retailers.

Most places still have 17 rim fire, 222, 22-250, 7mm08, 38 special and 45 long Colt. Not a bad line up and you could get buy with them just fine. The question is in a SHTF happening would we be able to get them at a store? In my way of thinking they may be the last off the shelf but you will not be as likely to be able to trade for them at the local barter place when every thing is shut down.

Also do you think there will ever be a time when every thing will be shut down. My thought has always been that our hard times will be like the great depression, things will still be up and running just not as many and money will be hard to come by. You will trade a days labor for a box of shells or a meal for your family and be gad you were able to do it. As many people have said that when hard times come a lot of people will die in the cities in the first month. That there will be riots and gangs hunting for food, sacking stores and taking what they need to stay alive.

That is what some think the government is planing for. The really hard times. They want to be in control and the best way to do that is to be the only one with guns. Sheep are much easer to herd than cats and dogs.

I plan to stay with the calibers I have chosen and maybe pick up a few more like a 22-250 and a 45 long Colt may be even a 7mm08. I know that gives me more rounds to stock but it also gives me more choices and a reason to get more guns. Like I really need a reason to get more guns.
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