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Old 02-06-2013, 03:47   #26
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They are anti-missile Patriot batteries aimed at defending Turkish civilians against Syrian regime President Bashar al-Assad's chemical-weapon capable missiles.
If Turkey is that concerned about it, they should be doing something about it. Doesn't Turkey have an army and air force?
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:18   #27
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Syria's best and number one resource at present is its global juxtaposition as far as what is being panned for Iran. Why do you think Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are so important as well? (Just google a map of the entire region.)

Anyway, free up Syria's airspace, and maybe a few of its airfields for good measure (but not necessary), and this will help open up yet another way to prosecute a sustainable attack against Iran a lot cheaper, safer, and faster than having to go around or avoid Syria while doing so.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:23   #28
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We're invovled in the Syrian conflict now

No, we've been there for over two years now.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:35   #29
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Apparently murdering American tourists, and homocide bombing an American embassy last I checked.

Maybe that is what made Obama like them?
That was not the Turkish government - that was criminals and terrorists. We even have those here.

What the Turkish government has done is send troops to Afghanistan in support of our mission. Having a country perceived as muslim on our side is a big asset. I have worked with Turkish soldiers and I have no complaints about them. Like the U.S., they have a secular government and pretty substantial freedom, compared to others in the area and most countries with a muslim majority.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:45   #30
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Why would you be surprised by this?
Exactly! We are creating more emenies by this mission.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:04   #31
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Easy there! You will be labeled un-American for such thinking! I agree we create many of the problems we face today. But no, people want to believe otherwise. I agree with you, and ironically the one man that many here just love to disparage actually had the same belief.
At least if you are labeled un-American you won't have to worry about domestic drone strikes against you.....
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:20   #32
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good post above kylenewman

Thrilled to know Im paying for Turkey's air defenses now too. So let's get this straight, Turkey gave the Syrian rebels anti-aircraft missiles and now we give the Turks anti-anti-aircraft missile batteries? WTF is going on here?
So that's what those two batteries do? Please, tell us how that works.
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That was not the Turkish government - that was criminals and terrorists. We even have those here.

What the Turkish government has done is send troops to Afghanistan in support of our mission. Having a country perceived as muslim on our side is a big asset. I have worked with Turkish soldiers and I have no complaints about them. Like the U.S., they have a secular government and pretty substantial freedom, compared to others in the area and most countries with a muslim majority.
Because the founder of Turkey was an agnostic.


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Old 02-10-2013, 00:54   #34
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We have always been involved in the Syrian conflict. But instead of supporting someone who can be reasoned with like Assad, the government is supporting the Al-Queda backed monsters who have been forcing non-muslims out and installing sharia law.

Good job America..

And people wonder why the world hates our government.

Lets replace one dictator with 10,000 would be dictators.
We have a winner.
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During the Cuban Missile Crisis JFK traded American missile sites in Turkey (think they were called "Jupiter" missiles) away as a token to get Russian nukes out of Cuba. Maybe history is repeating itself?
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:31   #36
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If Turkey is that concerned about it, they should be doing something about it. Doesn't Turkey have an army and air force?
I guess you missed the part where Turkey shelled Syrian military positions for six days in a row after a shell fired by the Syrians landed across the border in Turkey.

If you think we should get out of NATO that is a legitimate argument but right now we are IN NATO and Turkey is a NATO ally.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:46   #37
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So when Bush was POTUS it was OK to get involved, but now that Obama is, we are not supposed to?
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:48   #38
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So when Bush was POTUS it was OK to get involved, but now that Obama is, we are not supposed to?
Bush was a horrific president as well.

I don't know what it will take to make people understand that the majority of the republicans and democrats are just different sides of the same coin.


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Bush was a horrific president as well.

I don't know what it will take to make people understand that the majority of the republicans and democrats are just different sides of the same coin.


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don't know why you're all getting so upset.

we got involved in libya and egypt...look how well that worked out for obozo the dumbo earred campaigner.

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Bush was a horrific president as well.

I don't know what it will take to make people understand that the majority of the republicans and democrats are just different sides of the same coin.


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And we keep re-electing them. Doh!
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