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02-05-2013, 11:51
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
You keep saying that. Personally, I think they are whooeee. Other then perhaps the powder measure there is nothing about the LnL I feel is better then the 650. Even the toolhead vs bushing thing. Bushings are a PITA.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the bushing are great, the powder measure of course and I also like the shellplate design, and ease of primer switch over. Can we just come to the conclusion you hate the LnL and I like it.
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se carga el diablo de la pistola...
25acp,.223,25-20win,.308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 9mm, .45acp, .475 Wildey Mag
On 2 Hornady LNL's And a Super 1050
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02-05-2013, 11:52
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I'm not the only one that has these feelings and your not the only one that has your feelings. That will be $300 for the therapy season..
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se carga el diablo de la pistola...
25acp,.223,25-20win,.308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 9mm, .45acp, .475 Wildey Mag
On 2 Hornady LNL's And a Super 1050
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02-05-2013, 12:21
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Originally Posted by EL_NinO619
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the bushing are great, the powder measure of course and I also like the shellplate design, and ease of primer switch over. Can we just come to the conclusion you hate the LnL and I like it. 
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I don't hate the LnL. I just don't think what a lot people say makes it better is actually an improvement. It's purely different for the sake of being different. The primer slider is better when it comes to conversions but it's worse when it comes to reliability. I prefer reliability over ease of conversion. Of course that is easy for me to say. I never convert the 650 to Large Primer. I will be in the future so I will probably buy a complete primer setup to make that easier. So I guess we are up to two. Primer ease of conversion and the Powder Measure. Bushings still suck.
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Originally Posted by EL_NinO619
I'm not the only one that has these feelings and your not the only one that has your feelings. That will be $300 for the therapy season..
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Poor misguided souls.
To be honest. Most people have never owned a LnL and a 650 so they really don't have a clue. They are just guessing and justifying their choice in press. Using one is not the same as owning one. Zombie Steve has used my 650. Doesn't mean much till you owned it for a while.
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Yes, I post using a phone so my spelling sucks.
Converting Hornady owners to Dillon
one owner at a time.
Last edited by Colorado4Wheel; 02-05-2013 at 12:24..
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02-05-2013, 13:21
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Jacks #1 Fan
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lynnwood, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
I don't hate the LnL. I just don't think what a lot people say makes it better is actually an improvement. It's purely different for the sake of being different. The primer slider is better when it comes to conversions but it's worse when it comes to reliability. I prefer reliability over ease of conversion. Of course that is easy for me to say. I never convert the 650 to Large Primer. I will be in the future so I will probably buy a complete primer setup to make that easier. So I guess we are up to two. Primer ease of conversion and the Powder Measure. Bushings still suck.
Poor misguided souls.
To be honest. Most people have never owned a LnL and a 650 so they really don't have a clue. They are just guessing and justifying their choice in press. Using one is not the same as owning one. Zombie Steve has used my 650. Doesn't mean much till you owned it for a while.
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I remove and disassemble my primer feed every 1000 rounds to clean, inspect and lube. Takes me literally 3 minutes. I took a 12 point cheapo socket and ground it down to remove the primer punch, make life so much easier.
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Dillon XL650 & Super 1050B BLUE Kool-aid drinking team member
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02-05-2013, 14:13
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I have yet to clean mine. Your probably right Boxer. That should be done when I do a conversion.
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Steve
Yes, I post using a phone so my spelling sucks.
Converting Hornady owners to Dillon
one owner at a time.
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02-05-2013, 14:32
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Jacks #1 Fan
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
I have yet to clean mine. Your probably right Boxer. That should be done when I do a conversion.
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I'm super OCD about keeping my press clean. So it's just a normal routine for me. I've never loaded large primer on my press just got the socket set up just in case and when learning how to tear it down, put it back together.
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Glock 3rd Gen G19/G34, 4th Gen G17 FDE, G26,
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02-05-2013, 14:48
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Leave it to the GT reloading forum: A thread gets started about bullets being in stock at Powder Valley. 1 1/2 out of 2 pages (soon to be much more) are a debate on Blue vs Red. Again. Awesome.
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02-05-2013, 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
I remove and disassemble my primer feed every 1000 rounds to clean, inspect and lube. Takes me literally 3 minutes. I took a 12 point cheapo socket and ground it down to remove the primer punch, make life so much easier.
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Boxer, what size cheapo wrenches should I get for the 1050. And you got a pic showing where you ground them down?
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se carga el diablo de la pistola...
25acp,.223,25-20win,.308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 9mm, .45acp, .475 Wildey Mag
On 2 Hornady LNL's And a Super 1050
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02-05-2013, 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meathead9
Leave it to the GT reloading forum: A thread gets started about bullets being in stock at Powder Valley. 1 1/2 out of 2 pages (soon to be much more) are a debate on Blue vs Red. Again. Awesome.
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Be very very quiet. I am hunting LnL owners.
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Steve
Yes, I post using a phone so my spelling sucks.
Converting Hornady owners to Dillon
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02-05-2013, 16:02
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EX-Swage Monkey
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^lmao
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se carga el diablo de la pistola...
25acp,.223,25-20win,.308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 9mm, .45acp, .475 Wildey Mag
On 2 Hornady LNL's And a Super 1050
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02-05-2013, 17:29
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Consider the minimal cost savings in the LNL vs 650, no way I would buy the LNL & I have loaded on one enough to compare the two. With case feeders, they are within a few $$ now in price. No case feeder, the LNL is about $75 cheaper. The priming system of the 650 is worth that & I also do NOT like the bushings. The only time they are a better idea than the tool head is when you want to take one die out & mess with it.
Sure Justin, give a call, come over anytime & play with the 650.
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Last edited by fredj338; 02-05-2013 at 17:30..
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02-05-2013, 18:10
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#37
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Fred, if you let him load on your machine, he'll never leave
Actually did you know he works and lives in Laguna Beach during the week? That must be pretty close to you right?
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