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01-25-2013, 10:33
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External Hard Drives
I have been thinking about getting one but I don't even know where to start. What are the pros and cons of getting an external hard drive vs saving files/pictures to cds/USB drives?
Also, what are the top brands and who has the best prices for them?
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01-25-2013, 11:16
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An external hard drive is usually USB, so basically it's just a really big USB drive.
Pros of an external hard drive are the capacity.
Cons are they're physically larger so some of them just won't fit in your pocket like a thumb drive. The only other con I can think of is that most of the larger external hard drives require an external power source.
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01-25-2013, 11:21
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You may want to consider buying a prebuilt NAS unit. Buffalo sells some units that are really nice for consumers or small businesses.
Basically they are like an external hard drive except they connect to your router via ethernet and every PC on your network can access them. Very handy.
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01-25-2013, 12:36
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Well, if you just want to store some files, a NAS might be a bit overkill. If you want to stream media, etc.. a NAS is the way to go.
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01-25-2013, 14:18
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And they are just as prone to failure as any other hard drive, since they are just an internal hard drive in a case. So if you are storing important information on it you need to backup it up as well.
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01-25-2013, 14:58
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Something else to consider, depending on your space requirements is something like Mega.co.nz, Dropbox, Google drive, or Amazon cloud. Off site storage is much safer in the event of a disaster and more reliable as they (whoever 'they' may be) have real servers and a professional IT staff.
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01-26-2013, 05:30
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Quote:
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And they are just as prone to failure as any other hard drive, since they are just an internal hard drive in a case. So if you are storing important information on it you need to backup it up as well.
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This is very true.. having some sort of redundancy in your backup plan is critical.
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01-26-2013, 13:34
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Like anything else, depends on what you want it for. I have a Western Digital USB drive that I use to primarily backup my pictures and financial data. Like other people said, they can, and will, eventually fail. They can also be stolen or burned up when your house catches fire. I also keep a small drive, about 300GB, in my safety deposit box. I bring it home once a quarter and backup everything then back to the bank it goes. It's all the pictures that I do not want to lose. These things are dirt cheap and, if you stick with something like WD, or name brand stuff, they are fairly reliable.
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01-26-2013, 14:00
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I have a WD 500GB external drive. I generally use it for an extra back up. My main drive's are 2 WD 1TB in RAID 1 array.
I guess the need for an external drive will be determined by how much you need to store. You can get 64GB USB drives for 30 bucks these days and that may be enough.
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02-02-2013, 07:07
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I have a Seagate Backup Plus. It's 1TB, and gives me all the room I need. I can set it for backup on the fly, or incremental backups. (weekly, monthly) it is about as large as a Samsung Galaxy III phone. It works for me.
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02-02-2013, 09:04
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I have a Seagate 500gb. I use external drives for backup. The Seagate and my current laptop have USB 3.0 ports which are much faster. Flawless. I'd suggest looking to the fastest port on your 'puter and match a drive interface to it. If you have a desktop, you can add a USB 3 card. I hear there's a much faster standard coming soon (isn't there always?).
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02-02-2013, 09:49
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I keep most of my files(except financials) backed up mainly via dropbox and my google storage. I also periodically back it up to an external. I would bite the bullet and get an external drive instead of a internal. That way you can always take your data with you if needed. Depending on your router, you could also hook your external up via usb to the router and use it as a nas.
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02-02-2013, 10:27
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If your computer is new enough to have USB3 you might look at those if you buy a USB external drive. The USB3 is considerably faster than the older USB drives. I have a Seagate 1TB drive that is very compact and can easily travel with a laptop.
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard...andard/goflex/
Whatever you get you need more than one backup to be safe.
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02-02-2013, 13:21
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Thanks for the opinions. Looks like I have a few options to look into.
On the off site storage....how safe would the date be?
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02-02-2013, 17:41
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I have a usb drive I do local backups onto and then have online backup with idrive.com to backup the data there as well. So files stay on the normal computer and I have redundant backups. Everything is encrypted before uploading to the online backup so it's secure. If you get a 2.5" external drive those generally do not need additional power but the 3.5" ones do, so depending on how much storage you need it's something to think about. Also, if you do have and use a usb 3.0 one, make sure you get a long cable if you use wireless to get internet on the computer. It can put out interference that can lead to slow wireless and drops if it sits to close to the computer antenna (a few feet is good).
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02-05-2013, 00:04
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Redundancy, and off-site especially, is important.
USB flash drives are convenient, but not good for long-term storage. They will lose the data after about 10 years in theory, if left alone.
Also, CDs/DVDs are not as stable as they were originally thought to be.
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02-05-2013, 00:05
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Quote:
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Thanks for the opinions. Looks like I have a few options to look into.
On the off site storage....how safe would the date be?
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How safe is your parents' gun safe? How safe is a safe deposit box at your bank? All depends on where you put it.
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02-10-2013, 02:25
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I have two, a maxtor which is desktop model and a passport external. My maxtor is set to automatically backup. I only hook up the passport when traveling and take it with me so I have my files with me and redundant protection from theft and fire.
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02-23-2013, 01:40
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Western Digital Passport USB HD $80 for 500G
http://www.staples.com/Western-Digit...:WDBKXH5000ABK
Have a pair - one for cloning of OS and one for backup
Can fit in your back pocket.
Also have a Passport 1T for the family backup
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02-23-2013, 06:55
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If you are doing much data transfer USB2 is VERY SLOW. If you have a newer computer you are best with USB3, eSata or Firewire. Controller cards can be added to older machines for any of these. I'm a photographer and have over 70,000 pictures on my computer. I have an SSD for my "C:" drive and four 2TB internal drives. For backup I have a pair of external USB3 3TB external drives and a 2TB external eSata drive. Not to mention a bunch of older USB2 1 TB drives. For reliability you are best off to leave these units turned off when not in use, most have no cooling fans and heat is what kills drives.
Last, remember it is not a matter of if a hard drive fails, its when it fails. All drives will fail, its just a matter of when. So, whatever you get come up with a backup strategy and stick to it.
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02-24-2013, 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victoriagotagun
Thanks for the opinions. Looks like I have a few options to look into.
On the off site storage....how safe would the date be?
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With so many stories of hacking lately, I like the idea of keeping the sensitive stuff where I'm the only one with access. I keep some media files, school documents, etc on my dropbox, google drive, and such. I'm the only one with physical access the my hard drives, birth certificate, ss, etc. YMMV
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02-26-2013, 04:08
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Quote:
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On the off site storage....how safe would the date be?
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As archaic as the rule of 3 is, it's still valid.
3 backups. 2 immediately accessible, one off site.
When I was taught, it was long before cloud storage or the internet being able to field large files well.
Generally it was tape backups, one in the server room, another in a safe somewhere else on-site, a third copy of it at another physical site location also in a safe.
Nowadays, with how cheap storage media really is, you could have two usb hard drives and duplicate from one to the other.
Keep the second one somewhere else safe - safety deposit box is a great solution.
If you want long-term storage, then optical media (cd,dvd, blu-ray) is the only way to go. Non-magnetic, so won't be erased by magnets. Doesn't suffer the (roughly) ten year limit flash media does.
As long as the cd is physically in good condition, what is on it is on it. Just keep them out of sunlight and excess heat, safe in a binder from being scratched, and they will last for a very, very long time. Don't write on them with a sharpie, use a real cd marker with acid-free ink.
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02-27-2013, 06:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srhoades
And they are just as prone to failure as any other hard drive, since they are just an internal hard drive in a case. So if you are storing important information on it you need to backup it up as well.
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Yep, I actually had a WD 1TB fail. It was on my satellite dish receiver. When I had Dish Network, you could use an external HD to expand your DVR... sure enough the HD failed (under warranty) they replaced it, but I lost all my stuff.
The replacement drive has worked fine, but I do not fully trust them, back important stuff stuff up in different places. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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