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Old 02-03-2013, 14:34   #126
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Are you new to Glock Talk? Or the internet?

This is where people who live in their mom's basement come to get brave and show how much they resent their betters.
Indeed...e-badasses from their comfy couch.

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Old 02-03-2013, 14:34   #127
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I did NOT expect this kind of disgusting stuff here on GT.
You must not have seen the dozens of conspiracy threads and threads celebrating the death or wishing the death of liberals. Both sides of the political coin have become classless trash in the last 10-20years.
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:38   #128
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I have a couple of thoughts on this.

1. America has lost a true hero and all our prayers should go to out his family.
2 I hope the Tx Dept. of Public Safety keeps control of this case so we have some hope of hearing the truth. If the feds take over, we'll just get the spin from bho and holder.
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:47   #129
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RIP,
This is HORRIBLE!
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:58   #130
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I think the element of PTSD is really overblown. The media just loves this term and seems to use it to victimize veterans. Most sufferers of PTSD have never even served in the military. PTSD is often found in those who have been in car crashes, fires, near drowning, etc. to characterize someone who has suffered from PTSD as mentally unstable or even mentally ill demonstrates ignorance of the condition.
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Old 02-03-2013, 15:01   #131
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After all the **** he went through....all the tight spots he was in...all the bullets that went by him...to come home and have this happen.....no fu##en words to enplane this . RIP
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Old 02-03-2013, 15:04   #132
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I still can't make heads or tails out of this situation. What would possess another Vet to kill two other Vets? I really, really don't understand the motivation. I can't wrap my mind around this, no matter how hard I try.
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Old 02-03-2013, 15:05   #133
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You must not have seen the dozens of conspiracy threads and threads celebrating the death or wishing the death of liberals. Both sides of the political coin have become classless trash in the last 10-20years.
I would have to disagree, nothing new in politics these days. Going back in American history it has always been so. We use to have politicians beating and shooting each other over issues in the capital. I really don't think today's "division" is anything new politically. The things printed in newspapers when Lincoln was elected makes today look calm and civil for example.
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Old 02-03-2013, 15:10   #134
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That's a HARD story to read.
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Old 02-03-2013, 16:00   #135
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I still can't make heads or tails out of this situation. What would possess another Vet to kill two other Vets? I really, really don't understand the motivation. I can't wrap my mind around this, no matter how hard I try.
Like the school shooters he will have his news fame for awhile. He will get all the care he wants and needs at our expense as long as he lives. Several different organizations will use this to further their agendas.

Meanwhile a damn good man is gone and the scumbag lives on.
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Old 02-03-2013, 16:15   #136
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Old 02-03-2013, 16:29   #137
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Then I suppose your own personal heros: Rosie O'donnel and Michael Moore, by your standard, will die by the fork?

You are using scripture out of context to suit your goals, what are you, from Westoro? Tell me, did King David die by the sword. He did not.

Think a little bit, before throwing God under the bus for your political agenda. He is not mocked.
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Old 02-03-2013, 16:37   #138
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Covet thy neighbor is all I can think of now. I hope all the facts come out and the bastid fries. I don't care what he went through in Iraq


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Old 02-03-2013, 17:04   #139
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Kyle gave his life helping others to live theirs. Truly a great man.

Keeping those left behind in thoughts, so sorry for their loss...

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This is the man who has been charged with Kyle's murder - Eddie Ray Routh.

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Old 02-03-2013, 17:11   #141
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We should be very grateful that the world once gave us such a great man as Chris Kyle. Men like Chris are the reason we remain free today. Thank you Chris Kyle and all who have served this country with such honor and bravery
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Old 02-03-2013, 17:14   #142
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This is the man who has been charged with Kyle's murder - Eddie Ray Routh.

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Old 02-03-2013, 17:38   #143
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Rest in Peace my Brother.
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Old 02-03-2013, 17:57   #144
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I still can't make heads or tails out of this situation. What would possess another Vet to kill two other Vets? I really, really don't understand the motivation. I can't wrap my mind around this, no matter how hard I try.
have you ever worked with disabled vets?

some of them react adversely to gunfire (imagine that!). The organizations we have dealt with always have them vetted through either the VA or their own docs. Plenty of them are just not ready to go on a hunt.
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Old 02-03-2013, 18:23   #145
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have you ever worked with disabled vets?

some of them react adversely to gunfire (imagine that!). The organizations we have dealt with always have them vetted through either the VA or their own docs. Plenty of them are just not ready to go on a hunt.
A lot of us who have been shot at react adversely to gunfire. I used to flinch a lot when there was unexpected gunfire after taking rounds regularly from a hostile enemy in an undeclared war. I would go to a range, and hear a volley randomly go off on the other side of an adjacent burm and look instinctively for cover. When I left to investigations I had to deal with kids who have never been shot at, when I would flinch and look for cover by instinct, they thought that was funny. It took awhile to get past that.


I never once considered murdering my green brothers. A lot of people in uniform, not just the military, deal with PTSD. The issue is, there is help for folks in declared conflicts. For the LEOs there is only a code of silence that usually leads to alcohol abuse and suicide in the worst of circumstances. Rarely, ever do you find blue on blue PTSD murders that I know of.

So, like I said, I just don't get it. I understand what PTSD is. I understand what it is like to get over it on my own. I don't understand the desire to murder your freinds and fellow brothers. I'll never understand that. I doesn't make sense.

PTSD is more when there is a stimulous that reminds of being in that situation and you react, you also get angry easier, and you get moodier easier. I understand that part, I have been there. To this day, if you jump out and say "Boo!" I am more inclined to knock your block off and ask questions later. In my mind, hesitation means you have already lost.

But, murdering your fellow friends and brothers. I will never, ever, get that.

The worst that would happen to my brothers in green is drunken fist fights. That is pretty much the norm.
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Old 02-03-2013, 18:45   #146
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I appreciate each and every service person and vets which would include my father, family members and a whole lot of friends.

But I pray they don't play this BIG PTSD card here. Complete investigation, get all questions, facts evidence and motive covered and tried. If and when found guilty, kill the bastard!

Yes he served in two combat zones, but he crossed the line and it is time to be put down. Swift Texas justice.

He used a handgun so this was up close and personal. I heard one account I'm guessing from the hunter that found the bodies, that they were both shot in the back. This piece of crap deserves a firing squad!!!!

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Old 02-03-2013, 19:17   #147
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Live by the sword
Die by the sword...
My apologies.. A lot has been read into my post... I meant this in the sense of a warrior/gladiator not that he deserved anything.

Me, I'd rather die by shark attack doing what I like to do scuba/snorkeling than spend months in an ICU bed as a sick person then die-- I see this a lot in my world.

So, please accept my apology-- I kind of think that Chris would get this.. Working w/ PTSD vets has risk just like working w/ other mental situations.



He was the ultimate warrior.

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Old 02-03-2013, 19:49   #148
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I really don't know squat about PTSD
thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 02-03-2013, 19:51   #149
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What a tragedy.
Chris Kyle and his friend got murdered by the person they wanted to help.

Just wish Chris's legacy and achievements are celebrated and honored the way he wanted to.

as for the murderer. hope they do not kill them till they learned how his brain worked to do this....

One thing I noticed when reading the article -- is that the murder's mother knew that something was wrong with his behavior (she actually contacted Chris for help)...

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Old 02-03-2013, 20:17   #150
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My apologies.. A lot has been read into my post... I meant this in the sense of a warrior/gladiator not that he deserved anything.

Me, I'd rather die by shark attack doing what I like to do scuba/snorkeling than spend months in an ICU bed as a sick person then die-- I see this a lot in my world.

So, please accept my apology-- I kind of think that Chris would get this.. Working w/ PTSD vets has risk just like working w/ other mental situations.



He was the ultimate warrior.
Glad to hear it. My apologies for my comments.
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