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Old 01-22-2013, 11:25   #41
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None from Arizona.
Does Sheriff Joe even have to say it?
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:27   #42
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Does Sheriff Joe even have to say it?
Hahaha. Absolutely not.
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Old 01-22-2013, 13:49   #43
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I don't think it's a good idea for LE"s to pick and choose which laws to enforce. If they don't do their sworn duty then they shouldn't take the oath.
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Old 01-22-2013, 14:21   #44
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I know many people are concerned about the recent talk of the federal government related to our second amendment rights, so I want you to know where I stand as your elected Sheriff. It should bring you comfort in this discussion specific to our 2nd amendment rights that the great majority of Sheriff’s in the state of Colorado have an overwhelming drive to uphold their oath and protect the rights of the citizens they serve. Many of you know the stand I have taken in the past when it comes to protecting the Constitutional rights, lives and property of all people in Elbert County.
In regards to the recent firearms debate, I can tell you that for years my staff and I have worked diligently not only to address school safety issues, but also to ensure that Elbert County is a safe place to live, work and raise a family. Additionally, I recently began offering concealed carry classes taught by ECSO deputies in an effort to enhance gun safety and provide individuals with high level training for their Constitutional right to carry a firearm. The Sheriff’s Office has come alongside the 4H Shooting Sports program by holding fundraisers and working with the youth of Elbert County to be safe and responsible when handling firearms. We have and continue to instruct, lead and mentor youth and adults alike when it comes to responsible gun ownership.
I feel that the national conversation has been sidetracked because the debate should not center around removing guns from law-abiding citizens. We all know that if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns. I am not interested in making exceptions to ANY constitutional right. I am concerned with those suffering with mental health issues that populate our jails and go without meaningful and appropriate aid that provides solutions to the root of the problem. This issue has long been overlooked and I believe would address the source of the problem and not the law abiding, God fearing people that simply choose to embrace their rights as American Citizens.
We know, believe and stand fast on the fact that this great Country was established as a Constitutional Republic. This was because our founding fathers feared a democracy as much as a monarchy and understood that the only entity that could take away their freedom was their own government. I know that the sovereignty resides with the people and not the government. I am blessed, consider it a great honor, and I am humbled by my position as Sheriff.
As your elected Sheriff and a member of the executive branch of government, I do not determine what laws are constitutional. However, know that I will utilize any and all legal means available to stop the federal government from encroaching on any of our constitutional rights as Americans. Our right to keep and bear arms is absolute!

Sheriff Shayne Heap


Mine isn't on the list but its ok I know where he stands.

This is my Sheriff. Good man. Fair and balanced, takes care of his employees, and listens to the people who he serves.

Thank you Shayne!!!
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Old 01-22-2013, 14:27   #45
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I don't think it's a good idea for LE"s to pick and choose which laws to enforce. If they don't do their sworn duty then they shouldn't take the oath.
On the other hand, their oath proclaims they will protect and defend the constitution. If they believe an executive order is beyond the scope of the constitution as it has been interpreted, aren't they actually keeping their oath?

It's an ethical gray area, isn't it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 14:41   #46
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Alex Jones? Oy vey.
It doesn't sound like most people here are familiar with him. The guy is an over-the-top conspiracy theorist nut bag.

Take anything and everything he says with a grain of tinfoil wrapped salt.


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Old 01-22-2013, 15:07   #47
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I don't think it's a good idea for LE"s to pick and choose which laws to enforce. If they don't do their sworn duty then they shouldn't take the oath.
Taking discretion away from an officer would clog up the courts with trivial violations.
Some people only need a verbal, some people need the ride.

There are many archaic laws still on the books that make no sense. Surely, you would agree that cops dont need to enforce these type of laws.







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Old 01-22-2013, 15:09   #48
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I am surprised there are so many from Oregon. I thought that place was a liberal stronghold. I am very disappointed in Florida! Not one mention from Florida.
It's mostly Multnomah County. Portland followed by Eugene (because of the UofO) and Gresham (huge minority population). Granted, these are the largest population centers, thus we vote Blue every year. Portland is as bad (if not worse) than Seattle. You definitely won't see Multnomah County on the list


The rest of Oregon, however, is fairly conservative.
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Old 01-22-2013, 15:45   #49
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My boss is pretty high on that list and also issues CCWs [in ca.] like its going out of style.
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Old 01-22-2013, 18:04   #50
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I don't think it's a good idea for LE"s to pick and choose which laws to enforce. If they don't do their sworn duty then they shouldn't take the oath.
And how many times have you asked for a break on a traffic violation?
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Old 01-22-2013, 21:16   #51
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Sheriff Terry Box, Collin County, Texas also says he will follow the constitution.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:05   #52
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This is my Sheriff. Good man. Fair and balanced, takes care of his employees, and listens to the people who he serves.

Thank you Shayne!!!
I'm with the department that dispatches for you guys, but I would be really surprised if my Sheriff came out publicly, but as I said I know where he stands and that is good enough for me.

Its just not my departments way to be vocal about things...
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:13   #53
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Does Sheriff Joe even have to say it?
I think the State of Arizona already has!
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Old 01-23-2013, 14:24   #54
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My boss is pretty high on that list and also issues CCWs [in ca.] like its going out of style.
Must be central or NorCal because it ain't like that in SoCal except for SB County.
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Old 01-23-2013, 23:47   #55
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Alex Jones? Oy vey.
Because main stream media will give us all the details right?
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