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Old 01-19-2013, 21:29   #21
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My isn't on that list either
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Old 01-19-2013, 22:18   #22
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I agree with you but lets face it, what is there to gain by publicly announcing it?

Meanwhile there is so much to lose....

I admire Sheriff Joe for his outspokenness but here in Colorado its a much different game, Term Limits included, I wished we had the voting power to turn term limits off for the Sheriff's elected position but that didn't happen because of poorly educated voters too easily swayed by incorrect political advertising.

Well, here in western Colorado there were 4 sheriffs that stood up at least a year ago and said they would nor enforce any kind of federal firearms restrictions; including mine in Mesa County.
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Old 01-19-2013, 22:29   #23
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Add Elbert County CO

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I know many people are concerned about the recent talk of the federal government related to our second amendment rights, so I want you to know where I stand as your elected Sheriff. It should bring you comfort in this discussion specific to our 2nd amendment rights that the great majority of Sheriff’s in the state of Colorado have an overwhelming drive to uphold their oath and protect the rights of the citizens they serve. Many of you know the stand I have taken in the past when it comes to protecting the Constitutional rights, lives and property of all people in Elbert County.
In regards to the recent firearms debate, I can tell you that for years my staff and I have worked diligently not only to address school safety issues, but also to ensure that Elbert County is a safe place to live, work and raise a family. Additionally, I recently began offering concealed carry classes taught by ECSO deputies in an effort to enhance gun safety and provide individuals with high level training for their Constitutional right to carry a firearm. The Sheriff’s Office has come alongside the 4H Shooting Sports program by holding fundraisers and working with the youth of Elbert County to be safe and responsible when handling firearms. We have and continue to instruct, lead and mentor youth and adults alike when it comes to responsible gun ownership.
I feel that the national conversation has been sidetracked because the debate should not center around removing guns from law-abiding citizens. We all know that if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns. I am not interested in making exceptions to ANY constitutional right. I am concerned with those suffering with mental health issues that populate our jails and go without meaningful and appropriate aid that provides solutions to the root of the problem. This issue has long been overlooked and I believe would address the source of the problem and not the law abiding, God fearing people that simply choose to embrace their rights as American Citizens.
We know, believe and stand fast on the fact that this great Country was established as a Constitutional Republic. This was because our founding fathers feared a democracy as much as a monarchy and understood that the only entity that could take away their freedom was their own government. I know that the sovereignty resides with the people and not the government. I am blessed, consider it a great honor, and I am humbled by my position as Sheriff.
As your elected Sheriff and a member of the executive branch of government, I do not determine what laws are constitutional. However, know that I will utilize any and all legal means available to stop the federal government from encroaching on any of our constitutional rights as Americans. Our right to keep and bear arms is absolute!

Sheriff Shayne Heap


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Old 01-19-2013, 22:47   #24
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Well, it has to be said......so here goes.


We can't have LE "cherrypicking" what laws they will or will not enforce lest anarchy soon ensue. This is a very slippery slope and being LE does not = Constitutional lawyer, let alone some pseudo grand arbiter of justice. That's why we have a Court system in place.

That said, if one can't undo a great wrong at the ballot box then maybe it's time to reach for the cartridge box and change the Gov't.
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Old 01-19-2013, 22:58   #25
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Well, it has to be said......so here goes.


We can't have LE "cherrypicking" what laws they will or will not enforce lest anarchy soon ensue. This is a very slippery slope and being LE does not = Constitutional lawyer, let alone some pseudo grand arbiter of justice. That's why we have a Court system in place.

That said, if one can't undo a great wrong at the ballot box then maybe it's time to reach for the cartridge box and change the Gov't.
While I understand your sentiment, the fact of the matter is that every minute of every day law enforcement officers from the lowliest meter maid to the Attorney General of the US "cherrypick" which laws they will and will not enforce. It's the nature of the system.
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While I understand your sentiment, the fact of the matter is that every minute of every day law enforcement officers from the lowliest meter maid to the Attorney General of the US "cherrypick" which laws they will and will not enforce. It's the nature of the system.
C/Os do it as well, inside the fence.
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Old 01-19-2013, 23:16   #27
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Mine stood up, but is not on the list. My best friend's from the academy, however, quickly wiped his ass with the Constitution and threw his constituents in front of the bus. My guess is he won't be back again
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Old 01-19-2013, 23:19   #28
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Well, it has to be said......so here goes.


We can't have LE "cherrypicking" what laws they will or will not enforce lest anarchy soon ensue. This is a very slippery slope and being LE does not = Constitutional lawyer, let alone some pseudo grand arbiter of justice. That's why we have a Court system in place.

That said, if one can't undo a great wrong at the ballot box then maybe it's time to reach for the cartridge box and change the Gov't.
I hope and pray it never comes to that. Not that I have any pity for the thugs in office.

I did, however, run across one very thought-provoking image:

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C/Os do it as well, inside the fence.
Of course they do, once again, it is inherent and essential for the system to work. If law enforcement wasn't able to selectively enforce laws, the entire system would gridlock and nothing would get done.
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Old 01-19-2013, 23:23   #30
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Methinks term limits are our friend.
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30 out of 33 New Mexico Sheriffs are standing against gun control.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:23   #32
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Yeah, add Yavapai County Sheriff Scott Mascher to the list.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:34   #33
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Of course they do, once again, it is inherent and essential for the system to work. If law enforcement wasn't able to selectively enforce laws, the entire system would gridlock and nothing would get done.
It's called discretion and cops have it, prosecutors have it, and judges have it, unless taken away by mandatory sentencing laws.

Also, an unlawful or immoral order is no order at all. That is basic to every person who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, federal or state.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:03   #34
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Ours has told me at least twice that he will not enforce unconstitutional laws or executive orders. And with him it is not about reelection anytime soon, because he just got sworn in at the first of the first of the year.

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Old 01-20-2013, 15:32   #35
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A lot of Sheriffs are up for reelection this year.

And they are first and foremost politicians.
While my boss is a politician, he was just re-elected before being put on this list. He received less than favorable attention from the media for his stance. He was even bolder when answering their questions stating he will not violate civil rights be enforcing unconstitutional laws and will NOT have his people enforcing unconstitutional laws.

I've known and worked for my boss for well over 20 years. He carries a Wilson CQB and is one that "would do, to ride the River with".

My guess is that these Sheriff's are on the same page as my boss. Either way, I'll gladly take their second amendment support.
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This is all well and fine, but I have to wonder what could come of this?

Perhaps the bullet-ridden blue helmet was not enough of a hint.
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My hometown sheriff is there... Nice! Way to go Sheriff Bishop, Curry County Oregon!
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:15   #38
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My county Sheriff spoke at a 2a rally Saturday. Talked about how he supports the second amendment and his deputies had more important things to do than round up legally owned guns from non criminal type folks.

I have heard grumbling that he refuses to sign off on class 3 stuff but I don't know, never asked him to sign off on one. Either way, he has been. Decent Sheriff since he took office as far as I can tell.


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Old 01-22-2013, 00:16   #39
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From a running thread on ar15.com that I started. The list I have is pretty long, and growing daily.


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I am surprised there are so many from Oregon. I thought that place was a liberal stronghold. I am very disappointed in Florida! Not one mention from Florida.
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