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Old 12-08-2012, 20:36   #41
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Mod C from cdmgear.com + surefire G2 or fury
Thanks but that's not in the same price range. The CDM mount alone costs more than the Lumaforce light & mount.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:24   #42
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I just do not understand the two discusions going on here.

One is a back and forth about weapon mounted lights. We have a firearms instructor saying that weapon mounted lights are only relevant for LEO/Mil. It's nice to know how to use a handheld light in conjunction w/ a firearm. There just isn't a reason not to mount one to the weapon. Why tie up a hand if you don't need to. It makes everything (reloads, malfunction clearing) much more difficult. Especially on a long gun.

Learn to use it properly, momentary on/off, etc...

I am curious as to how the instructor would recommend using a handheld light while running a long gun.

The second is that I'll never understand people throwing cheap junk on their defensive weapons. It blows my mind.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:05   #43
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You want the L&M light mount:

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Absolutely stays put and it only clamps to the mag tube. I didn't like any of the mounts that attach to the mag tube and the barrel because every time I wanted to take the barrel off I had to get the allen pack out and take the light mount off first.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:25   #44
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Having spent a lot of time in the dark pointing weapons at people with and without a weaponlight..... hopefully, you'll never find out the hard way how wrong you are.
Safe, effective use of a weapon-mounted light is simply a training issue, no?
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Old 12-09-2012, 13:40   #45
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Having spent a lot of time in the dark pointing weapons at people with and without a weaponlight..... hopefully, you'll never find out the hard way how wrong you are.
Inside my home, just not needed. There is plenty of light at night. I get up in the middle of the night every now and then and can walk around just fine without bumping into things. I know my house and were the furniture is. There are lots of light sources from the LED's in various appliances, stereo, cable box, battery chargers, ect....

I can walk around without making noise, but I bet an intruder can't. My home isn't that big and there are a couple of nice choke points. I will know where an intruder is before they know where I am.

That and I have 2 K9-A1 intruder detection systems. I don't need to see an intruder, I just need to aim above the barking noises.

I do have night sights on my carry gun and shotgun.

Now outside the home, in strange locations I can see the usefulness of a light. I don't have a weapon attached one, but I do carry a light.
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Old 12-11-2012, 19:35   #46
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You want the L&M light mount... didn't like any of the mounts that attach to the mag tube and the barrel...
That's why I don't like the CDM MOD-C mount plus I feel it is over priced. I learned the hard way, long ago, that you usually get what you pay for but most importantly... more expensive does not always mean better.

Thanks jb1911 for your post! I ordered the L&M mount for $25.

I've read nothing but good reviews of the Lumaforce light and I own a few high quality knock offs and all of them are brighter, look, feel and perform just as well as my Surefire but they are a heck of a lot cheaper.

In a week or so, I'll dump several high pressure loads through the gun and report back on how the Lumaforce light and L&M mount hold up.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:46   #47
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You must positively ID a threat. Every single time.

Several guys thinking like you ended up shooting their wives or kids because they didn't think they needed a light.

A pastor I knew once almost shot his then-girlfriend in a similar incident.

The areas I used to conduct operations in on active duty I trained in, every day. Repeatedly, while on duty. Sometimes up to 15 times a day we'd run dry-runs. I could literally walk the place blindfolded pretty much and know where I was.

Still used a light. Every time. Even though our rules of engagement were far, far looser than yours.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:52   #48
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That's why I don't like the CDM MOD-C mount plus I feel it is over priced. I learned the hard way, long ago, that you usually get what you pay for but most importantly... more expensive does not always mean better.

Thanks jb1911 for your post! I ordered the L&M mount for $25.

I've read nothing but good reviews of the Lumaforce light and I own a few high quality knock offs and all of them are brighter, look, feel and perform just as well as my Surefire but they are a heck of a lot cheaper.

In a week or so, I'll dump several high pressure loads through the gun and report back on how the Lumaforce light and L&M mount hold up.
Buy once, cry once. I usually avoid the cheap route and finding "just as good" products, especially with firearm/work gear. I rarely if ever take the barrel off my work 870. The cdm mount has been solid with no complaints. For $40 it does what it's supposed to.


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Old 12-15-2012, 08:48   #49
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Last night, I put the LumaForce light and the L&M Single Ring mount through the paces. After installing the mount and light, it's rock solid. You can't twist or move either with your hand. I shot 25 3" magnum slugs/buckshot without so much as a hiccup. Shoulder's a little tender though.

I'm very happy with my $75 investment and highly recommend this combo.

Thanks again jb1911 for recommending the L&M mount.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:58   #50
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I would just change out the forearm with one that has rails.

I have the OEM forearm with rails on my Mossberg 590 A1. It works very well. They are not too expensive either.





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Old 12-15-2012, 10:35   #51
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Please take no offense but that forearm mount sticks out too far for my taste and it eats up a ton of hand space.
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To each his own... It's all good

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Old 12-15-2012, 18:52   #52
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Last night, I put the LumaForce light and the L&M Single Ring mount through the paces. After installing the mount and light, it's rock solid. You can't twist or move either with your hand. I shot 25 3" magnum slugs/buckshot without so much as a hiccup. Shoulder's a little tender though.

I'm very happy with my $75 investment and highly recommend this combo.

Thanks again jb1911 for recommending the L&M mount.
Glad to help. I don't know why more people don't use this mount.
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Old 01-17-2013, 14:46   #53
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Someone asked...
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The mount measures 23/32" thick. Just a hair under 3/4".
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