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01-15-2013, 18:51
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What caliber is this?
It looks like it sizes up with my 7.62x39 but it says that no where on the round? The box says it is but not the bullet. Just want to make sure before I shoot it.  
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01-15-2013, 19:02
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Not all brass had the caliber headstamped on it years ago. Especially true with some of the foreign ammo and milsurp. If you don't trust it take some measurements with a caliper comparing it to a known 7.62x39 round.
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01-15-2013, 19:07
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Just sizing it up.. It looks a little taller by a hair and maybe just short of a hair wide.. I'll measure it for sure tho
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01-16-2013, 04:48
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Even from the poor picture of the cartridge (not "bullet") I can tell you that it's 7.62x39mm.
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01-16-2013, 08:07
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7.62x39 for sure.
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01-16-2013, 08:12
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Commies did not have to mark their brass back then. One party, one leader, one caliber.
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01-16-2013, 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Commies did not have to mark their brass back then. One party, one leader, one caliber.
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7.62x25, 7.62x39, 7.62x54.
One caliber 3 different case lengths.
Then they get the 9x18 and 5.45x39.
posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
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01-16-2013, 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Commies did not have to mark their brass back then. One party, one leader, one caliber.
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Ehhhh, You hopefully realize that most U.S. military ammo is marked only with the manufacturer and the year of production.
IE. WCC 03, RA 94 etc.
In fact, most often caliber is referred to by its identifying number, M-193, M-855, M-80.
Caliber markings on brass are for the amatures not the professionals.
EDIT: To check the accuracy of my recollection, I just retrieved a box of 30-06.
The box is marked as follows
20 cartridges
BALL
caliber .30 M2
Lot LC 39131
Lake City Arsenal
casings are marked. LC 52
The caliber of .30-06 NEVER appears on the packaging or the cartridge.
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01-16-2013, 18:19
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7.62x39
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01-16-2013, 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkavaboy
Even from the poor picture of the cartridge (not "bullet") I can tell you that it's 7.62x39mm.
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I could tell because it is written on the box!
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01-16-2013, 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I could tell because it is written on the box!
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+1
when in doubt read the box
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01-17-2013, 00:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkavaboy
Even from the poor picture of the cartridge (not "bullet") I can tell you that it's 7.62x39mm.
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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
I could tell because it is written on the box!
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Good for you!
Good thing that the OP posted a pic of the box so it made it easier for you to identify the writing on the box.
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01-17-2013, 09:34
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There must be over a hundred world-wide makers of 7.62x39 mm.
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01-17-2013, 16:02
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Originally Posted by fendertele87
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Sure looks like 7.62 x 39 mm. Do you have any unopened boxes? If so, then verify they have the same ammo inside them.
Also does the ammo chamber readily?
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01-17-2013, 18:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
There must be over a hundred world-wide makers of 7.62x39 mm.
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Yes. The 7.62x39mm caliber is to the rifle world what the 9x19mm caliber is to the handgun/SMG world; the most prevelant calibers produced today.
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01-19-2013, 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Haldor
Sure looks like 7.62 x 39 mm. Do you have any unopened boxes? If so, then verify they have the same ammo inside them.
Also does the ammo chamber readily?
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No more boxes. Just had the one box and then a SKS mag that had the same ammo in it.
I got all this stuff from my mother-in-law when my wife's dad left.
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01-26-2013, 01:27
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Factory 10 in Bulgaria, year of production 1984. Most military ammo I've seen is like this. Commercial production ammo puts the caliber on it, probably for liability reasons.
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02-04-2013, 22:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vafish
7.62x25, 7.62x39, 7.62x54.
One caliber 3 different case lengths.
Then they get the 9x18 and 5.45x39.
posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
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Don't forget about the formidable 7.62 X 51. The .308 is a great mid-weight cartridge. I love it in both of my rifles.
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02-05-2013, 07:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Merkavaboy
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Good thing that the OP posted a pic of the box so it made it easier for you to identify the writing on the box.
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....one wonders why the OP did not read the box
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02-08-2013, 09:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banger
Ehhhh, You hopefully realize that most U.S. military ammo is marked only with the manufacturer and the year of production.
IE. WCC 03, RA 94 etc.
In fact, most often caliber is referred to by its identifying number, M-193, M-855, M-80.
Caliber markings on brass are for the amatures not the professionals.
EDIT: To check the accuracy of my recollection, I just retrieved a box of 30-06.
The box is marked as follows
20 cartridges
BALL
caliber .30 M2
Lot LC 39131
Lake City Arsenal
casings are marked. LC 52
The caliber of .30-06 NEVER appears on the packaging or the cartridge.
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Wow. I wonder why the caliber is omitted?
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02-08-2013, 14:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
Wow. I wonder why the caliber is omitted?
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As far as the military was concerned, they covered that when they identified the ammunition as "M-2"
That was all the identification that they needed.
Much like today when troops require ammunition for their M-4 rifles, the ammunition will simply be marked on it's boxes as "M-855", "M-193", "M-856" etc., with only the manufacturer initials and year on the casing.
Think WCC-04, LC-08, and such.
Those numbers tell all the story that the need to know.
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02-10-2013, 12:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banger
As far as the military was concerned, they covered that when they identified the ammunition as "M-2"
That was all the identification that they needed.
Much like today when troops require ammunition for their M-4 rifles, the ammunition will simply be marked on it's boxes as "M-855", "M-193", "M-856" etc., with only the manufacturer initials and year on the casing.
Think WCC-04, LC-08, and such.
Those numbers tell all the story that the need to know.
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I guess that the military knows what it is doing in this regard.
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02-10-2013, 20:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
I guess that the military knows what it is doing in this regard.
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You would be hard pressed to shove 240G ammo into your M4 mags.
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02-12-2013, 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
You would be hard pressed to shove 240G ammo into your M4 mags.
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That is correct!!
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