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Old 01-15-2013, 07:48   #76
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Doesn't the military use military style semi auto pistols, and don't military style semi auto pistols have a pistol grip? And can accept detachable magazines? Are they now assault weapons?

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:49   #77
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I Doubt you'll see "NY magazines", way too few NY pistol permit holders to justify that, I suspect it's also a number that will be shrinking significantly. Small single stack semis, 1911s and revolvers are the only choice and some pump shotguns. Pretty sad, I'm truly embarrassed to have been born and raised there.
That was actually a bit of satire. I don't think there will be "NY Mags" either, for the exact reason you mentioned.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:49   #78
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Wow...

Get ready boys this short of BS maybe coming for all of us on the federal level.


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Old 01-15-2013, 07:49   #79
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Bets on how long until 7 rounds is just too much? Next will be 5 rounds, and then 3 ...
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:51   #80
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............and the sales of large diameter PVC pipe and shovels just went up at the local hardware/home improvement stores. With all the defending I do for NYS and since I live here, this one was a kick to the junk. And for all you haters saying that its our fault we voted them in, it doesn't really work that way on a gun forum where everyone here is pro gun. We (pro gun members in NY) as a collective whole probably all voted for a conservative (pro gun) state government. You shouldn't be pointing fingers at us. The minority obviously loses every time when it comes to a vote. This is going to be another law like cell phone use in a car. 95% of police officers are going to ignore the violations and enforcement of this law.

Also, yes I am a new member to GT so my post count doesn't show that I have been a supporter of firearms for a long length of time and I look like just another one of these first time gun owners with no credibility. To clear any of that up.... I am a long time gun owner, ccw holder in a county which basically requires your soul before the Judge will sign the ppw, but a short time internet gun forum poster.

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:51   #81
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If I'm Remington, I'm scheduling a press conference that states that I am leaving the state as soon as a suitable home is found if that thing passes.

If I'm Nikki Haley (SC Govenor, may have spelled her first name wrong), I'm calling Remington and offering a pretty sweet deal to get them down here.
Yep, and me thinks the bidding war between the states will be impressive. I'm sending some emails to Virginia's leaders and business development groups this morning.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:52   #82
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All you people who voted democrat can burn in hell. You earned it. I have no use for you.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:52   #83
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When will this go into effect
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Yep, and me thinks the bidding war between the states will be impressive. I'm sending some emails to Virginia's leaders and business development groups this morning.
I will be adding this opportunity as an item in my correspondence as well.

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When will this go into effect
After the lawsuits are finished.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:58   #86
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............and the sales of large diameter PVC pipe and shovels just went up at the local hardware/home improvement stores. With all the defending I do for NYS and since I live here, this one was a kick to the junk. And for all you haters saying that its our fault we voted them in, it doesn't really work that way on a gun forum where everyone here is pro gun. We (pro gun members in NY) as a collective whole probably all voted for a conservative (pro gun) state government. You shouldn't be pointing fingers at us. The minority obviously loses every time when it comes to a vote. This is going to be another law like cell phone use in a car. 95% of police officers are going to ignore the violations and enforcement of this law.
Well, a guy on another forum who lives in upstate NY and has a few guns was really proud of his vote for Obama a couple of months ago. Then yesterday I posted this:

New York has announced their tentative new gun control measures. They are going to ban "assault weapons" and magazines or guns that can fire more than 7 rounds.

Welkome to Amerika New Yorkers!


And he responded thusly, still in denial.

This did not happen, and I highly doubt that it will in it's presently packaged form...
Wrongo !
They can announce anything they want. A legislative vote is another matter.


And then, slowly, the realization begins sinking in...

Fk'n NY Senate passed it last night. Now it goes to the legislature. Our three reps voted against it, but those down state homos passed it. This is the most fk'd up state, politically that I've ever seen.
What a great diversion from the budget mess we're in. Those bastard gotta be loving this.


He may very well have voted for pro-gun reps but he voted for Obama.

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That's my concern. Maybe not immediately, because right now, we have a fairly conservative House, that will have problems with this.

My hope, is that pro gun people will VOTE in 2014 and give us a liberal cleansing in the Senate AND House.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:25   #88
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Midway sells 5 round Garand clips. The guys who shoot high power rifle will be able to do so. Two 5 round clips instead of 2+8 combo.

If I were a NY Glock owner I would get some 10 rounds mags real quickly. Of course, they could not be loaded to more than 7 rounds but what can you do?

Why blame the democrats? It was a Republican controlled Senate the voted overwhelmingly for the bill.
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He may very well have voted for pro-gun reps but he voted for Obama.
And if Obama lost he would be dealing with the same law.

Also, consider that Obama is a narcissistic pyshcopath bent on achieving Universal Disarmament. He will overreach and step on his you-know-what.

If we had Romney in office we'd be hearing about "Legit Hunting" and "Small Varmint Guns" and would likely be facing the exact same laws introduced by the exact same people, and probably a few of the same EOs.

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If I were a NY Glock owner, I'd move out of NYS.
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And if Obama lost he would be dealing with the same law.

Also, consider that Obama is a narcissistic pyshcopath bent on achieving Universal Disarmament. He will overreach and step on his you-know-what.

If we had Romney in office we'd be hearing about "Legit Hunting" and "Small Varmint Guns" and would likely be facing the exact same laws introduced by the exact same people, and probably a few of the same EOs.



If I were a NY Glock owner, I'd move out of NYS.
While spot on with the mentality of law enforcement in NY, totally incorrect about Romney. He stood firm when asked in the 2nd debate about his position, Obama was honest as well and is doing what he said he would. Anyone who voted Obama deserves to have his/her guns taken from them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:57   #91
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Well, since Remington already has a factory here in KY (they make the Viper .22 here), perhaps they'll add another somewhere nearby. I'm a BIG Remmy fan, too. Will only buy their shotguns and rifles. Specifically, the 870, 11-87, 1100, SP-10, and 700 series.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:01   #92
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I cannot speak for anyone else, nor can I claim to have seen even 1% of all of the posts on GT (but I have probably seen 40% of all the posts on the front page of GNG

but I cannot recall those GT members who claim they both live in NY and are democrats.

Either way, our Republicans' ideas of rebuffing gun control laws is to use both hands to spread our ass cheeks wide and apply a lubricant, to minimize the tearing and bruising from the (any) impending ass reaming we are to receive.
You live in New York? will you be moving out?
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Do any legal experts have ANY ideas on how this legislation might be overturned?
D.C. has more restrictive laws. The only thing that could really overturn this would be a massive national boycott of New York, which has been desperately struggling to bring back in businesses who have fled the anti-business atmosphere.
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If I were a NY Glock owner I would get some 10 rounds mags real quickly. Of course, they could not be loaded to more than 7 rounds but what can you do?
I'm guessing that will not fly, because they are "capable" of more than 7 rounds. Who even knows if "hi capacity" mags will be grandfathered in.
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D.C. has more restrictive laws. The only thing that could really overturn this would be a massive national boycott of New York, which has been desperately struggling to bring back in businesses who have fled the anti-business atmosphere.
Yeah but finding someone in DC with cause to sue to overturn the law is more than a bit of a trick. Remember it took 30-40 years to find someone that was legally able to claim injury from the law.

One mistake NY is making is having the law not grandfather current owners.

If no one can buy in the future, it's difficult to prove harm by the law.

If they declare the currently owned equipment contraband, there will be a bunch of people volunteering to be the test case.
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I'm guessing that will not fly, because they are "capable" of more than 7 rounds. Who even knows if "hi capacity" mags will be grandfathered in.
Here is the bill...S2230-2013: Licensure, suspension and revocation of firearms licenses
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And if Obama lost he would be dealing with the same law.

Also, consider that Obama is a narcissistic pyshcopath bent on achieving Universal Disarmament. He will overreach and step on his you-know-what.

If we had Romney in office we'd be hearing about "Legit Hunting" and "Small Varmint Guns" and would likely be facing the exact same laws introduced by the exact same people, and probably a few of the same EOs.



If I were a NY Glock owner, I'd move out of NYS.
Not sure why you think Romney and Obama are two sides of the same coin on this issue because you are dead wrong. Voted for Obama, didn'tcha?
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Yep, and me thinks the bidding war between the states will be impressive. I'm sending some emails to Virginia's leaders and business development groups this morning.
Hey - I called it first!!!

You can have Springfield Armory if they ever decide to leave Illinois.
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You can have Springfield Armory if they ever decide to leave Illinois.
Hey, they can move here to Missouri. Heck, we even have a Springfield here!
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