NYS Senate passed new gun bill - Page 2

PAGunner · 01-15-2013, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&P Shooter

They want all mags to be restricted to 7 rounds and ban all AW. It will never pass, this is just a bunch of crazies running in circles waiting for congress to slap them all in the face with a dose of reality

It's a done deal, the senate is the only thing that could have stopped it and that is where it passed. It will pass the assembly with zero problems and Cuomo will sign it.

I'm so glad I fled that hellhole!

IndyGunFreak · 01-15-2013, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&P Shooter

They want all mags to be restricted to 7 rounds and ban all AW. It will never pass, this is just a bunch of crazies running in circles waiting for congress to slap them all in the face with a dose of reality

It's painfully obvious you did not read the article

***Gallium*** · 01-15-2013, 03:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

Fools = "Pro Gun Democrats"

You don't need to search back very far to find their posts here on GT. They are strangely quiet right now though

How many pro-gun NY democrats on Glock Talk? Probably zero.

"pro gun" democrats who don't live in NY will not be inclined to even look at a thread about gun laws in NY,

and yes, I know many pro-gun democrats in NY. Some are friends, many are associates. This bill made it to the senate where this upper house is about 1:1 with senate:democrats.

There are only a few "pro gun" republicans in NY, in either house.

IndyGunFreak · 01-15-2013, 03:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gallium

How many pro-gun democrats on Glock Talk? Probably zero.

Might want to go back and search the reelection threads. More than one was quite proud they voted for Obama, and were sure he would not pursue a gun control agenda, because he didn't in his first term. Several of them have been members here for a long time, w/ several thousand posts... so no reason to think they were just trolling.

IGF

***Gallium*** · 01-15-2013, 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

Might want to go back and search the reelection threads. More than one was quite proud they voted for Obama, and were sure he would not pursue a gun control agenda, because he didn't in his first term. Several of them have been members here for a long time, w/ several thousand posts... so no reason to think they were just trolling.

IGF

I thought people would understand I meant "pro gun NY democrats".

Post has been edited, and thus I resubmit my now edited question: How many pro-gun New York democrats on GT?

IndyGunFreak · 01-15-2013, 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gallium

I thought people would understand I meant "pro gun NY democrats".

Post has been edited, and thus I resubmit my now edited question: How many pro-gun New York democrats on GT?

They're probably in hiding.

***Gallium*** · 01-15-2013, 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

They're probably in hiding.

I cannot speak for anyone else, nor can I claim to have seen even 1% of all of the posts on GT (but I have probably seen 40% of all the posts on the front page of GNG

but I cannot recall those GT members who claim they both live in NY and are democrats.

Either way, our Republicans' ideas of rebuffing gun control laws is to use both hands to spread our ass cheeks wide and apply a lubricant, to minimize the tearing and bruising from the (any) impending ass reaming we are to receive.

Bren · 01-15-2013, 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&P Shooter

They want all mags to be restricted to 7 rounds and ban all AW. It will never pass, this is just a bunch of crazies running in circles waiting for congress to slap them all in the face with a dose of reality

So explain how there is even the slightest chance it will NOT pass?

It just passed the New York senate, the assembly (NY's house of representatives) has 100 democrats and 49 republicans.

it was the governor's idea, or else he's talking like it was.

At which point is it going to fail - the democrat super-majority that has to pass it in the assembly, or the governor who asked for it?

There is a reason New York was rated the least free state in America...and that reason is New Yorkers.

Bren · 01-15-2013, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

It's painfully obvious you did not read the article

I read this article and that's what it says is in there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/ny...laws.html?_r=0

Beretta92guy · 01-15-2013, 04:30

so this turns how many honest, law-abiding citizens into criminals??????

how can anyone with common sense believe this will deter some nut-job from shooting up a school????

this is just plain stupid, based on nothing more than emotion, and not FACTS.....but hell, when do liberals care about facts??? only about pleasing their lib-tard flock in order to stay in office

"Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge."....................

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-seals-1st-s...074653716.html

IndyGunFreak · 01-15-2013, 04:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bren

I read this article and that's what it says is in there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/ny...laws.html?_r=0

I only read the link in the OP, which also pretty clearly mentioned it passed the Senate, and should sail through the Assembly.

Very sad.

Glad I'm not a traveler.

PAGunner · 01-15-2013, 04:40

Wow no grandfather clause to this, so if you own any Glock othe than a 36 or 39 you will be in violation of the law. My prediction is this drives every last patriot out of that Kommunist stinkhole. That's INSANE!

In fact, someone in NY should challenge this legally.

PocketProtector · 01-15-2013, 04:44

Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

IndyGunFreak · 01-15-2013, 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAGunner

Wow no grandfather clause to this, so if you own any Glock othe than a 36 or 39 you will be in violation of the law. My prediction is this drives every last patriot out of that Kommunist stinkhole. That's INSANE!

In fact, someone in NY should challenge this legally.

or it's going to turn a lot of people into felons.. I think w/ the 6rd limit, their goal was to make the only practical choice, a revolver. So while not banning semi-auto's, there's not very many that hold 7rds or less, that aren't mouse guns. Maybe manufacturers will make "NY Magazines"

IGF

***HerrGlock*** · 01-15-2013, 05:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

or it's going to turn a lot of people into felons.. I think w/ the 6rd limit, their goal was to make the only practical choice, a revolver. So while not banning semi-auto's, there's not very many that hold 7rds or less, that aren't mouse guns. Maybe manufacturers will make "NY Magazines"

IGF

In '94, one of the unintended consequences of the 10 round limit was that gun manufacturers started building smaller and smaller CCW firearms. This was quite the difference because the '80s brought us the high capacity race with the "wondernines"

So now, in NY, people who follow the law will have to buy smaller and more concealable firearms. I wonder if the assembly actually thought about that for a minute before passing the jerking of the knee bill.

PAGunner · 01-15-2013, 05:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

or it's going to turn a lot of people into felons.. I think w/ the 6rd limit, their goal was to make the only practical choice, a revolver. So while not banning semi-auto's, there's not very many that hold 7rds or less, that aren't mouse guns. Maybe manufacturers will make "NY Magazines"

IGF

I Doubt you'll see "NY magazines", way too few NY pistol permit holders to justify that, I suspect it's also a number that will be shrinking significantly. Small single stack semis, 1911s and revolvers are the only choice and some pump shotguns. Pretty sad, I'm truly embarrassed to have been born and raised there.

DanaT · 01-15-2013, 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beretta92guy

so this turns how many honest, law-abiding citizens into criminals??????

how can anyone with common sense believe this will deter some nut-job from shooting up a school????

this is just plain stupid, based on nothing more than emotion, and not FACTS.....but hell, when do liberals care about facts??? only about pleasing their lib-tard flock in order to stay in office

"Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge."....................

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-seals-1st-s...074653716.html

Having to turn them in, sell them within a year out of state, or be jailed is the same as confiscation. I have it on good word that no police officer would participate in a confiscation scheme.

Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

***Gallium*** · 01-15-2013, 05:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaT

Having to turn them in, sell them within a year out of state, or be jailed is the same as confiscation. I have it on good word that no police officer would participate in a confiscation scheme.

...

In NY one of the goals of policing is to get guns "off the street". Unfortunately "the street" means "out of the hands of people", so if someone did something mildly stupid in their own home (say like file a restraining order against someone else) they stand a good chance of temporarily having their guns confiscated by the state.

PAGunner · 01-15-2013, 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaT

Having to turn them in, sell them within a year out of state, or be jailed is the same as confiscation. I have it on good word that no police officer would participate in a confiscation scheme.

Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

Good luck with that, you need a pistol permit to even touch a handgun in NY, it's not a very large number of pistol permit holders in NY. They know which models held over 7 rounds, they're not stupid. NYSP gets paid WAY too much money for them to not comply with their unconstitutional orders from their Kommunist leaders. When the NYSP comes knocking, anyone left in NY owning a gun will cave.

deadmanglocking · 01-15-2013, 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketProtector

Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

What's that? Obama's toilet paper?

mgs · 01-15-2013, 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerrGlock

I wonder if Remington and Kimber et al will move shop to a more gun friendly state.

Remington may move but the Owner of Kimber is a true Yonker or is that Wonker. The magic of the number "7". I can change 7rd mags just as quick as 15 rd mags and only lose a few seconds of meyhem.

Fear Night · 01-15-2013, 05:42

This bill is unbelievable. It makes Feinstein's bill look tame. The bill passed the NY Senate 43-18.

I will never spend a dime of my money in that cesspool of a state.

Quote:

In his State of the State address last Wednesday, Cuomo called for the "toughest assault weapons ban in the nation" as well as limiting magazines to a capacity of seven bullets, down from the current 10.

"No one hunts with an assault rifle," Cuomo said. "No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer. End the madness."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-guns/1833271/

mgs · 01-15-2013, 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAGunner

Good luck with that, you need a pistol permit to even touch a handgun in NY, it's not a very large number of pistol permit holders in NY. They know which models held over 7 rounds, they're not stupid. NYSP gets paid WAY too much money for them to not comply with their unconstitutional orders from their Kommunist leaders. When the NYSP comes knocking, anyone left in NY owning a gun will cave.

Come sell your guns to us in PA.....still a free state for now. I love NY lakes and mountains but not their laws. I break your laws quite often BTW.

mgs · 01-15-2013, 05:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaT

Having to turn them in, sell them within a year out of state, or be jailed is the same as confiscation. I have it on good word that no police officer would participate in a confiscation scheme.

Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

Then they lose their job and pension. Only a 3%er would do that. You are screwed.

PAGunner · 01-15-2013, 05:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgs

Come sell your guns to us in PA.....still a free state for now. I love NY lakes and mountains but not their laws. I break your laws quite often BTW.

I fled NY years ago, hence the PA in PAGunner (at the time I was a medical student, "gunner" is a term used to describe ambitious students) so "gunner" was a double entendre. Anyway I now happy live in south Florida, the gunshine state!