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01-13-2013, 23:49
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#126
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Location: Northern Virginia
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Originally Posted by AA_Khost
There are many checks and balances in place but I think many here underestimate Obama's total disregard for our Constitution. He will try and ram unconstitutional legislation, laws, executive orders etc... down our throats.
He will throw it out there and see what he can get to stick.
He's dangerous.
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Well, he is not required to follow the Constitution because he is not legally the President. We all know that his father was married to another woman when he made Barry and that was not a legal marriage to Barry's mom..thus he is illegal.   But because of his skin tone he has gotten "cart blanche" treatment. That is the new Amerika.
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01-14-2013, 08:30
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#127
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Far Traveler
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Bottom line -resist ANY more encroachment. Do not accept and DO NOT OBEY any orders issued by Obongo which are contrary to the Constitution. Fight to keep what we have.
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01-14-2013, 08:33
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#128
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Chicks Dig It
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: California & New Mexico, US
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Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
Well, he is not required to follow the Constitution because he is not legally the President. We all know that his father was married to another woman when he made Barry and that was not a legal marriage to Barry's mom..thus he is illegal.   But because of his skin tone he has gotten "cart blanche" treatment. That is the new Amerika.
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Maybe you should take this reasoning to the US Supreme Court?
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01-14-2013, 13:14
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#129
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CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: watching the Son rise again. ;)
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Originally Posted by Eric
... Keep in mind too that while Obama may not have to worry too much about losing political capital now, but all those other democrats surrounding him would probably like to avoid losing their seat at the pork barrel. Most of those career pols are not going to commit career hari-kari for the Big O. The flip-side of this being Obama's last term means that he will have nothing to offer those career pols(Including political protection), come the next election. They will be on their own. Eric
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biden's part in this was multifold.
First, time consuming smoke an mirrors to get us past the holidays.
Second, create a reason to have a little ink for the 2016 election cycle.
Third, you've hit the nail on the head with respect to Congress committing political suicide, which is the exact reason for the executive order strategy. In both the 2014 and 2016 election cycles, our Congressional members can claim anything they want, as far as the reelection campaign trail goes, if soetoro uses and X-order. In Bart Simpson's famous words, "I didn't do it!"
I mean after all, look how we got all those "obamacare" supporters out of office since 2008.  (Didn't happen, while stumping for reelection they used the excuse of being told martial law would be imposed and the sheeple bought it.)
It will be the same thing with this x-order from soetoro. They learned back in '93-'95. Now they have the perfect end around play as far as reelections in the future. (I won't go off topic about crooked voting machines setting the deck for reelections as well.)
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01-14-2013, 13:21
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#130
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CLM Number 221
Am Yisrael Chai
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
Well, he is not required to follow the Constitution because he is not legally the President. We all know that his father was married to another woman when he made Barry and that was not a legal marriage to Barry's mom..thus he is illegal.   But because of his skin tone he has gotten "cart blanche" treatment. That is the new Amerika.
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In order for the POTUS to write a binding x-order, the Constituion has to have been suspended. Simply put, we have been without the benefits of an acting Constitution for quite some time now.
(Heck, if my understanding about State and corporate law as far as Florida's legalese goes, here in Florida we are still, technically, under martial law that was imposed by jebbers bush, which he made effective on Wednesday, 09-12-2001. It has only been acted on selectively, but no less it is still there.)
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“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.” - William S. Burroughs
"Nothing we're gonna do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that [our gun ban legislation] will bring gun deaths down..." - VPOTUS Joe Biden
"The object in quitting the Union was not to destroy, but to save the principles of the Constitution." - Alexander Stephens
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01-14-2013, 15:53
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#131
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NRA Member
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow
Fox News: "BREAKING NEWS: Vice President Joe Biden says President Obama could use executive action -- and bypass Congress -- to toughen gun control laws."
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Let's assume for a minute this is what really happens. Say BHO advocates something rather low-key. If it is accepted and it bypasses congress; it's time to worry.
That sets the precedent. Three months from now he'll try to shove through something more aggressive. Then more in the next 3 months...
I think celebration is premature.
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01-14-2013, 17:04
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#132
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PA Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PA
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Originally Posted by Eric
Good grief. If I hear one person say 'Well, it is over', before it has even properly begun, I am going to kick someone's cat.
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01-14-2013, 19:29
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#133
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anti-poster
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: IL
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I think about my grandfather....
...Veteran, sportsman, small business owner. Miss him dearly, but glad that he will not be here to see the POTUS actually wipe his rear with the Bill of Rights. It would kill him faster than the Camel filters did.
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01-14-2013, 19:43
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#134
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NRA Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 10,838
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Yep...not going to happen
They are still pressing the issue, including executive order options. Biden identifies 19 different EO options
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ons-86187.html
Now they are asserting that it does not create new laws, but only reinforces existing laws. We'll see. But make no mistake, they will be as aggressive as possible in taking advantage of the emotions around this tragedy.
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01-14-2013, 19:52
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#135
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Rip Lips
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Idaho
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And the response should be tenfold what they try to enact.
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01-14-2013, 20:05
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#136
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Republic of Texas, CSA
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Originally Posted by BigDeeeeeeee
If the administration is already talking EO then it just means that the "conversation on gun violence" isn't going as well as they hoped.
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Sounds like Reid has already gotten an earful from Red State Dem Senators defending their seats in 2014.
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01-14-2013, 20:08
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#137
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Republic of Texas, CSA
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Originally Posted by Eric
I am 45 and I live in Texas. Eric
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Another reason to luv Tx..lol
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01-14-2013, 20:18
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#138
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Boosh
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: anti gun, IL
Posts: 133
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
Well, he is not required to follow the Constitution because he is not legally the President. We all know that his father was married to another woman when he made Barry and that was not a legal marriage to Barry's mom..thus he is illegal.   But because of his skin tone he has gotten "cart blanche" treatment. That is the new Amerika.
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Jesus take off the tinfoil.... Guess what? He already won and they aren't going to erase the last 4 years of his term. Why don't you concentrate on how terrible of a president he has been instead of something so stupid? This is why people don't take conservatives seriously
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01-14-2013, 21:58
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#139
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Front range in the mountains!
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Go to whitehouse.gov and sign the petitions...
I signed this one;
Recognize that an Executive Order restricting firearms is an illegal act and will likely result in an insurrection.
And another on the 2nd Amendment. I am surprised not more have signed it. Lets go y'all
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01-15-2013, 07:52
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#140
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fnfalman
Maybe you should take this reasoning to the US Supreme Court?
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After seeing their take on Obamacare, I wouldn't count on any help from them on anything.
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01-15-2013, 12:04
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#141
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Flyin' Low
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Just heard that Obama will have children from Newtown by his side tomorrow while he announces gun control measures.
You are a disgusting, despicable human being, Mr. Obama. To drag these children through more of your mud is DEPLORABLE.
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