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01-13-2013, 17:07
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Confederate
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The Panic of 2013 Ends Tuesday
Reports are that the Biden committee will announce tougher background checks to prevent guns from ending up in the hands of the mentally ill, a nationwide discussion on mental health, and school safety initiatives.
No restriction on assault weapons or mags or ammo.
Biden has said that his Senate colleagues universally opposed any gun control. So, Obama blames Congress for no restrictions.
I think they knew this was a dog and pony show gamble. If they won, they claim success, if they lose, they blame Congress.
Come Tuesday, those folks that paid $2000 for a $600 DPMS are gonna feel pretty darn stupid. The buyers market will be back by Spring.
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01-13-2013, 17:10
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harborrat
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I don't know about background checks being any tougher, but I fully expect the end result of all this will be requiring background checks on all private sales. That is almost a given.
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01-13-2013, 17:14
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reports from where?
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01-13-2013, 17:16
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Rastaman!
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I've heard that they are still pushing magazine capacity.
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01-13-2013, 17:16
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expect the transfer fee to double.
i go through a background check for dhs for my haz mat endorsement. we will end up paying double for a transfer.
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01-13-2013, 17:19
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harborrat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshhtn
I've heard that they are still pushing magazine capacity.
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They are, but looking at it from a strictly legal standpoint it doesn't seem to be doable for them at the moment.
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01-13-2013, 17:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorper
I don't know about background checks being any tougher, but I fully expect the end result of all this will be requiring background checks on all private sales. That is almost a given.
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I honestly don't care about this. It isn't a big deal, we do it here. Take 2 seconds and doesn't cost anything. This is a compromise we should be willing to make to avoid any awb or mag ban.
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01-13-2013, 17:24
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Confederate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hines57
reports from where?
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It's pretty much all over the web. It's no secret that they have failed.
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01-13-2013, 17:26
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No compromise is acceptable.
Compromise to liberals means we pro-2nd Amendment citizens will settle for less freedoms, each and every time anything comes up.
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01-13-2013, 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harlenm
I honestly don't care about this. It isn't a big deal, we do it here. Take 2 seconds and doesn't cost anything. This is a compromise we should be willing to make to avoid any awb or mag ban.
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No .
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01-13-2013, 17:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebrake
expect the transfer fee to double.
i go through a background check for dhs for my haz mat endorsement. we will end up paying double for a transfer.
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That hazmat background is nothing but a money maker for the gov.  I can understand paying the full cost if you're just getting it for the 1st time..... But Nooooo, its the same whether its a renewal or not....
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01-13-2013, 17:31
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transmogrifier
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skorper
I don't know about background checks being any tougher, but I fully expect the end result of all this will be requiring background checks on all private sales. That is almost a given.
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And how could background checks on all private sales be enforced unless there is registration of all guns in private hands?
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01-13-2013, 17:34
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General Flunky
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this was on the NBC nightly news about a hour ago...
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-n...1434/#50451434
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01-13-2013, 17:34
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harborrat
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The mental health issue is going to be bantered about a lot. Look for these issues to be integrated into future background checks. (ie. If you have ever been diagnosed with certain conditions, and possibly even the medications you are on).
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01-13-2013, 17:35
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Rastaman!
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I just flipped it to the Anti-Gun channel- CNN, and the guy just reported that Joe B. will recommend full AWB to Obama on Tues.
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01-13-2013, 17:36
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Confederate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshhtn
I just flipped it to the Anti-Gun channel- CNN, and the guy just reported that Joe B. will recommend full AWB to Obama on Tues.
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They are carrying the water for them. Its a lie.
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01-13-2013, 17:38
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Senior Member
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Location: Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshhtn
I just flipped it to the Anti-Gun channel- CNN, and the guy just reported that Joe B. will recommend full AWB to Obama on Tues.
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Good.
The tree of liberty is looking a little dry.
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01-13-2013, 17:39
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harborrat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas
And how could background checks on all private sales be enforced unless there is registration of all guns in private hands?
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Very very good question. If, once the new requirement is made known, you go ahead and sell a gun without a transfer, you will be technically breaking the law. How are they going to know? They might not ever know. But if something goes wrong, watch out.
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01-13-2013, 17:39
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Confederate
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GOA is even saying that there will be no ban.
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01-13-2013, 17:40
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas
And how could background checks on all private sales be enforced unless there is registration of all guns in private hands?
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Enforced when caught, like most other laws.
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01-13-2013, 17:41
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Senior Member
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Location: South Carolina
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If they announce no ban then I will buy an AR15 when the prices return to normal. I don't really care about 30 round magazines. If I can't hit it in 10 rounds, then I don't have much chance.
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01-13-2013, 17:43
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FL Glocker #182
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Sure did get the firearms economy going. Retailers sold 5 years worth of ammo and mags in 30 days. Boy there are going to be some pissed off folks when they see these mags and ARs they bought for 500% markup settle back down. Can't wait to see my local gun trader website flush with for sale ads stating "but I paid $2000 for it and I'd like to get at least $1950".
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01-13-2013, 17:46
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Confederate
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The weeping will commence Monday and will be in full effect Tuesday.
The pawn shops will be full of ARs and AKs very soon.
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01-13-2013, 17:46
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Should this be true, when people want to return their premium priced purchases to the retailers, things could get interesting.
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01-13-2013, 17:47
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Brew Crew
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hines57
reports from where?
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Yeah, where are you getting this from, Restless28?
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