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Old 01-11-2013, 12:53   #1
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Two Portland Men Open Carry Rifles To Educate About Gun Rights

The news story:

http://www.kptv.com/story/20548025/m...and-to-educate

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Old 01-11-2013, 13:48   #2
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Has to be a better way of doing that. A lemonade stand comes to mind.

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Old 01-11-2013, 15:36   #3
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If what they are doing is legal, I don't see the problem. I wouldn't have gone about it that way but at least they are trying to help out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 15:47   #4
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Doesn't help our cause at all, and probably does more harm than good. There are better ways to fight this.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:07   #5
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Just what gun owners need now, idiots scaring the anti-guncrowd and giving us more bad press. What A-holes.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:18   #6
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Just what gun owners need now, idiots scaring the anti-guncrowd and giving us more bad press. What A-holes.
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The real problem is they scare the folks that have no fixed opinion on the subject of guns. And they run the risk of alienating those that are on the fence on the issue.

All the anti's have to do is point to folks like these and say, "there, that's what the folks that own the "black rifles" are like, nutjobs that think carrying an assault weapon downtown is a great idea."
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:32   #7
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The real problem is they scare the folks that have no fixed opinion on the subject of guns. And they run the risk of alienating those that are on the fence on the issue.

All the anti's have to do is point to folks like these and say, "there, that's what the folks that own the "black rifles" are like, nutjobs that think carrying an assault weapon downtown is a great idea."
You said it better than I.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:40   #8
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These two moron did nothing to help our cause, it's a great ammo for the antigun crowd.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:42   #9
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These two moron did nothing to help our cause, it's a great ammo for the antigun crowd.
Like 99.99% of all open carry in populated, public areas.
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Old 01-11-2013, 19:55   #10
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If what they are doing is legal, I don't see the problem. I wouldn't have gone about it that way but at least they are trying to help out.
It has about the same positive impact as educating people about political correctness by standing on the corner yelling racial insults at passers by - that's legal too.
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Old 01-11-2013, 21:02   #11
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If what they are doing is legal, I don't see the problem. I wouldn't have gone about it that way but at least they are trying to help out.
I do not think that they were "trying to help out", I think that they are morons trying to call attention to themselves and they hoped that this would get theim air time on TV, locally and across the country.

The A-holes.

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Like 99.99% of all open carry in populated, public areas.
I agree

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Old 01-11-2013, 23:31   #13
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If it is legal, I don't see the harm. I remember people doing carrying evil black rifles at rallies where Obama was speaking. That didn't seem to be any more of a problem. I see a couple of young men exercising their first amendment rights and their second amendment rights at the same time. I guess we have a different view of things and the Bill of Rights.
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Old 01-11-2013, 23:49   #14
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If it is legal, I don't see the harm. I remember people doing carrying evil black rifles at rallies where Obama was speaking. That didn't seem to be any more of a problem. I see a couple of young men exercising their first amendment rights and their second amendment rights at the same time. I guess we have a different view of things and the Bill of Rights.
They weren't where Obama was speaking.


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Old 01-12-2013, 04:40   #15
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IIRC, I read here in MD that you can carry a long gun. The wording of the law allows it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:36   #16
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I do not think that they were "trying to help out", I think that they are morons trying to call attention to themselves and they hoped that this would get theim air time on TV, locally and across the country.

The A-holes.

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Old 01-12-2013, 09:02   #17
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I guess we have a different view of things and the Bill of Rights.
Narcissistic navel gazers always have a different view of things, because for them they are the only thing that matters. Common sense and self restraint never enter into their thinking. all they think about is what they want.

They take liberty for license, adopting a thought process that is, "As long as it is legal I'll do it", then wail when society gets fed up with their antics and makes it illegal.

And even then they will never acknowledge that their activities were counter productive. And never served any purpose other than their own gratification.

The Legalist asks- "Can I?"
The Libertine asks, "Will I?"
The Prudent man asks - "Should I?"
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Narcissistic navel gazers always have a different view of things, because for them they are the only thing that matters. Common sense and self restraint never enter into their thinking. all they think about is what they want.

They take liberty for license, adopting a thought process that is, "As long as it is legal I'll do it", then wail when society gets fed up with their antics and makes it illegal.

And even then they will never acknowledge that their activities were counter productive. And never served any purpose other than their own gratification.

The Legalist asks- "Can I?"
The Libertine asks, "Will I?"
The Prudent man asks - "Should I?"

You nailed it. Right on the money and it needed to be said.

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Old 01-12-2013, 15:48   #19
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Hopefully these guys won't be as effective as the Open Carry folks in California were.

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Narcissistic navel gazers always have a different view of things, because for them they are the only thing that matters. Common sense and self restraint never enter into their thinking. all they think about is what they want.

They take liberty for license, adopting a thought process that is, "As long as it is legal I'll do it", then wail when society gets fed up with their antics and makes it illegal.

And even then they will never acknowledge that their activities were counter productive. And never served any purpose other than their own gratification.

The Legalist asks- "Can I?"
The Libertine asks, "Will I?"
The Prudent man asks - "Should I?"
Twice well spoken. Nailed it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 16:43   #21
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If it is legal, I don't see the harm. I remember people doing carrying evil black rifles at rallies where Obama was speaking. That didn't seem to be any more of a problem. I see a couple of young men exercising their first amendment rights and their second amendment rights at the same time. I guess we have a different view of things and the Bill of Rights.
I agree. Stand up for them people. Might not be the best way to go about it but good for them. Stand up for what is right. If you dont like it dont live in Oregon. Go hide with the democrats in California.

Found this on another forum.

"Support OC, CC, and noC - the real point is that we support the individual right, the freedom, to make that decision.

Regarding infighting and open dissension, yes we can be our own worst antagonists. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

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I do not think that they were "trying to help out", I think that they are morons trying to call attention to themselves and they hoped that this would get theim air time on TV, locally and across the country.
I think you've got 'em pegged. I've always suspected that the OC activist types engaged in that sort of conduct because they wanted to be the center of attention, and knew they'd never get it at a nudist camp.
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...bet they suck tremendously at any card game, never show your hand. EVER.
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The Legalist asks- "Can I?"
The Libertine asks, "Will I?"
The Prudent man asks - "Should I?"
At my age, I ask, "Do I really have to?"
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