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Old 01-08-2013, 08:32   #26
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How does it do as far as rust prevention? Anyone lube and wipe their guns w/ Mobil 1 and put them up for a while?
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:37   #27
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How does it do as far as rust prevention? Anyone lube and wipe their guns w/ Mobil 1 and put them up for a while?
How many times have you seen a motor's rotating assembly with rust on it, even after 200,000 miles, when pulling the oil pan?

Your gun is small change compared to what motor oils are designed to handle.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:55   #28
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That's funny that the Glock armorer said "No grease on Glocks!" because my dad's brand new G22 was absolutely lubed to the gills with some sort of purplish grease. Even the gun shop owner said he never saw anything like it, and that was right out of the factory sealed box. My G26 had a bit of grease from the factory in the back of the frame where the trigger bar rubs against something or other.

That said, I use a quality oil, currently using Nano Oil since the dispenser is so nice.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:59   #29
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Love me some Ballistol.
Me too. I use Ballistol to clean/lube the barrel but I use a tiny bit of oil on the lube points. Like one drop total.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:09   #30
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What's wrong with grease?

When looking at lubrication requirements for various mechanical applications, firearms tic every box for grease, and very few for oil. (other than as an exterior preservative...which isn't a lubrication issue)

Much ado about nothing. Get the acids off the metal (sweat, powder residue), protect it from moisture, store it where little hands can't get to it and your cat can't pee on it.

From both a metallurgical and mechanical standpoint, nearly every firearm made is stone-simple. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. A $99 Wal-Mart Weed Whacker is a far more complex design and more demanding on its lubricants than any hand gun. Just use some basic machine stewardship and get back to worrying about more important topics, like the tire tread pattern on your lawn tractor.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:19   #31
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Do you guys really use that much oil that this is a concern? Gun oil is made for guns and it isn't really that expensive. I have over half a bottle of FP1 I bought a decade ago for maybe $15.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:30   #32
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I have used Royal Purple for quite a while in my cars and guns. The stuff works great for both.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:44   #33
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How many times have you seen a motor's rotating assembly with rust on it, even after 200,000 miles, when pulling the oil pan?

Your gun is small change compared to what motor oils are designed to handle.
That rotating assembly is sealed and not exposed to air and humidity.

Does it prevent rust on a gun or not?
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:26   #34
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That rotating assembly is sealed and not exposed to air and humidity.

Does it prevent rust on a gun or not?
I haven't used it, but why wouldn't it?
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:38   #35
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That rotating assembly is sealed and not exposed to air and humidity.

Does it prevent rust on a gun or not?
Change "rotating assembly" to lifters, rockers, intake valves, valve springs, etc. and ask the same question.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:53   #36
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That rotating assembly is sealed and not exposed to air and humidity.

Does it prevent rust on a gun or not?
Uh, what?

You ever broken a motor open after it sat for years with no good oil in it?

I say broken, because, well....thats about what happens with the bolts at that point.


Yes, it prevents rust on a gun. Very well.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:59   #37
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Yes, it prevents rust on a gun. Very well.
Ok. Thanks.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:05   #38
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Change "rotating assembly" to lifters, rockers, intake valves, valve springs, etc. and ask the same question.
The valve train is housed under the valve cover that has a sealed valve cover gasket. Same with intakes; they have a gasket which makes them a sealed component. Parts that are exposed to air and humidity tend to rust, even with oil on them and I know some gun oils are better at preventing rust than others. So the same question remains.

Nevermind: answered above.

would like to see the results of some tests though.

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Old 01-08-2013, 11:17   #39
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Glock lube oil

I'v been reading alot about useing Mobile 1 senthetic oil on Glocks ! My question is I cant find the Oil "DIP STICK" on any of them !! LOL.
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I'v been reading alot about useing Mobile 1 senthetic oil on Glocks ! My question is I cant find the Oil "DIP STICK" on any of them !! LOL.
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HO HO! It's funny because guns no have dipsticks!
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:35   #41
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Found this test using Mobil-1

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

The Okie Corral

Bottom right is Mobil-1. Top middle is Break-Free.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:42   #42
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Found this test using Mobil-1

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

The Okie Corral

Bottom right is Mobil-1. Top middle is Break-Free.
This is good information. I read all information provide in the tests shown here and even though it might be "good enough" it is for sure not the best. Now that being said the tests are extreme and would also indicate that the items being tested would be allowed to stay in those contitions.

A Glock or Sig would have enough of a coating on them that if you used Mobile 1 on them it would probably be more than enough to protect the weapons from rusting. Rust protection is great but also the fact that it seems the Mobile 1 would last longer on moving parts that is still not a bad thing to consider. I have cooked break free off a gun before by extensive shooting but I also cleaned the weapon and re-oiled it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:45   #43
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Gun lube

2 parts Mobil 1, 5W30
1 part Synthetic part ATF
1/2 part Kroil
1/2 part Marvel Mystery Oil
1/4 part STP
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Old 01-08-2013, 13:52   #44
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I use Mobile-1 for all my lubrication needs.


Also, get some of these:




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Old 01-09-2013, 16:28   #45
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Why bother with Mobil 1 synthetic? Its a gun, not an engine. Just buy some nice thick knockoff dino oil. The crap is designed to lubricate an engine spinning at 6,000RPMs, I assure you even the least effective of it is more than enough to protect your gun.
like a previous person has posted reg cheap dino oil is slightly acidic and with a polymer frame i dont want to take chances. and synthetic is better in not breaking down
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I use Mobile-1 for all my lubrication needs.


Also, get some of these:

http://compare.ebay.com/like/1109498...Types&var=sbar
What does the wife think about that?
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Old 01-09-2013, 19:04   #48
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Gun lube

2 parts Mobil 1, 5W30
1 part Synthetic part ATF
1/2 part Kroil
1/2 part Marvel Mystery Oil
1/4 part STP
This is supposed to be really good stuff. Still wanna whip some up and try it.
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Old 01-09-2013, 19:37   #49
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All motor oils are great oils, and to a certain extent, all commercial oils are just about as good as any other. The problem is, a quart of motor oil does not contain a full quart of oil. All brands have additive packages which are mostly cleaning detergents, designed to scrub the innards of your engine and keep dirt from clinging to the hot metal.

As well, all of the multi-viscosity oils also have even more additives, which are there to react with the heat and expand or thicken the oil under operating conditions. A multi-viscosity oil rated at 5w-20w (a 15 weight spread) has less of these particular additives than a multi-viscosity oil with a higher range, such as 20w-50w (a 30 weight spread). When you use these oils on your gun they will work but are not quite equal to most specialty gun oils. Most gun specific oils have only one additive, and that is something designed to make the oil cling to the area upon which it is placed. Also be aware that if you are using motor oil on your gun, you are only applying the thickness (weight) of oil that is the lower number. Oil burning off the barrel not withstanding, because of the lack of heat the additive package will not kick in to change the viscosity.

To further complicate things, oils that are marketed as do-it-all products (cleaners lubes and protectants) have an even larger additive package and are therefor inherently not the best lubricants, because they are not 100% oil.

As far as rust protection, any oil that STAYS on the gun metal where it is applied and acts as an air/moisture barrier will work fine for protecting guns. I use gun oil for lubrication and protection. Cleaners have their own place.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:47   #50
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Methinks some people are combining lubrication with rest prevention or at least feel like a lubricant should be preventing rust.
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