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12-28-2012, 21:26
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Originally Posted by LongGun1
$2.25 per year is the cost of the mil-surplus ammo cans...
..amortized over 20 years! 
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Cheaper than dirt has new 50 cal ammo cans for 160. Very good deal. Especially since I can get them delivered to me for free...
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12-28-2012, 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
$2.25 per year is the cost of the mil-surplus ammo cans...
..amortized over 20 years! 
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Ha!! I pay $5 for like-new ones and can get as many as I want locally. Plus I bought a huge one with 6 hasps on it from the same guy for $15 two weeks ago. Started a thread on it in the GFF and NO ONE could ID it even with a pic.
Anyway, I have a few dozen mags, lowers, etc. in it right now.
But yeah...if we're talking amortization I'd be in the .25 range.
Thanks
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12-28-2012, 21:51
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Originally Posted by Aceman
If you think you'll need more than 20k in 22lr, invest in some Xanax, not more 22.
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With friends and family along, I often go through 2,000 rounds in a day. I shoot a lot more than twenty times a year.
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12-28-2012, 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emt1581
But yeah...if we're talking amortization I'd be in the .25 range. 
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The regular .50 cans will not hold 12 bulk packs..IIRC
..& even at $5 each you might take another look at your math!
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12-28-2012, 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
The regular .50 cans will not hold 12 bulk packs..IIRC
..& even at $5 each you might take another look at your math! 
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I know and I noticed yours were deeper than the typical .50cal cans.
Math was never my strong suit.
-Emt1581
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12-29-2012, 01:38
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Again, please explain to me (sensibly, reasonably) the relationship between exactly what impending ban, and the need for a crapton of .22lr?
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12-29-2012, 01:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TKM
With friends and family along, I often go through 2,000 rounds in a day. I shoot a lot more than twenty times a year.
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This I get. But that would be any old Saturday. Today, tomorrow, yesterday, ten years ago.
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12-29-2012, 02:41
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Yes, definitely buy the ammo as you have now clearly decided not to move to Florida. Or have you decided not to move to Florida?
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12-29-2012, 06:11
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Originally Posted by bdcochran
Yes, definitely buy the ammo as you have now clearly decided not to move to Florida. Or have you decided not to move to Florida?

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Did you not read the part where I said several time that it was going to be a few years? And does that have anything to do with .22lr ammo?
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12-29-2012, 06:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
The regular .50 cans will not hold 12 bulk packs..IIRC
..& even at $5 each you might take another look at your math! 
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Just a tip, try the 20mm cans. They hold about as much as you'd want to pick up at one time.
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12-29-2012, 07:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc
Just a tip, try the 20mm cans. They hold about as much as you'd want to pick up at one time.

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I like the 20mm for airtight storage of items that do not need to be moved!
I would rather pick-up two 50 cal cans & go..
(balanced load, no back strain)
..than leaning forward & walking like a duck while holding one really heavy 20 mm can which is banging on my knees.
Ask me how I know this !
Also they are really deep...
..makes it hard to grab items not near the surface.
YMMV
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12-29-2012, 08:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
I like the 20mm for airtight storage of items that do not need to be moved!
I would rather pick-up two 50 cal cans & go..
(balanced load, no back strain)
..than leaning forward & walking like a duck while holding one really heavy 20 mm can which is banging on my knees.
Ask me how I know this !
Also they are really deep...
..makes it hard to grab items not near the surface.
YMMV
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Oh, I just grab one in each hand, but that's for a trip from the garage to the back of the truck only.
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12-29-2012, 09:24
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12-29-2012, 09:33
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Or.... What about just continuing to buy a brick or three at a time, when you're at a store already? In the long run that accomplishes the same thing, while incentivizing local stores to stock the things we want them to stock.
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12-29-2012, 09:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quake
Or.... What about just continuing to buy a brick or three at a time, when you're at a store already? In the long run that accomplishes the same thing, while incentivizing local stores to stock the things we want them to stock.
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I could do that. I haven't been to wal-mart in weeks though. I'm betting their shelves are bare except for the oddball stuff at this point. I may mosey on over just to take a gander at some point today. I need to stop at Tractor Supply for more Carhartt pants anyway...
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12-29-2012, 18:11
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Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc
Oh, I just grab one in each hand, but that's for a trip from the garage to the back of the truck only.
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How many rounds of ammo in each 20mm can & what type?
The last time I stored just bullets (not cartridges) in a 20mm..
..it was very heavy..
..I would guess several hundred pounds.
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12-29-2012, 22:17
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Let's see...
10 magazines loaded w/ 25 rounds each in an AR/22. That can last a reasonable 15 minutes. Take time for refills, etc and you can EASILY shoot 1k rounds in a single session.
Or...a single round can take down a deer and feed a family for a week.
Guess it all depends on how you wanna look at things. 20k rounds of ammo sounds insane to some. To others, it sounds like a good start.
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12-30-2012, 01:25
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The smallest/least round I'd ever try ta take a deer with is a .22mag.'08.
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12-30-2012, 07:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
The regular .50 cans will not hold 12 bulk packs..IIRC
..& even at $5 each you might take another look at your math! 
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$5.00 per can for 20 years is $0.25 per can per year. What am I missing here?
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12-30-2012, 07:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OMDonald
$5.00 per can for 20 years is $0.25 per can per year. What am I missing here?
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Because the protection I listed is not for one can of ammo..
..but the number of cans to protect the entire 20,000 rds of .22LR
In my case....6,600 rds in bulk packs per "Tall 50" (@ $15 each x 3 cans)..
..or in his case maybe 6 cans.
Yes...he will spend less than my more densely packed method..
..but certainly not $0.25 a year...
..more like $1.50.....still very cheap insurance for the price of 20K ammo now..
..much less the inflated price & possibly limited availability of 20K of .22 LR in 20 years from now
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12-30-2012, 07:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LongGun1
How many rounds of ammo in each 20mm can & what type?
The last time I stored just bullets (not cartridges) in a 20mm..
..it was very heavy..
..I would guess several hundred pounds.
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If you stored just bullets, you'd probably need a forklift to carry the darn thing. Cartridges are lighter. Each of the 20mm cans holds a selection of different calibers, a few boxes of this, a few boxes of that, but they are full. It's not a far walk from where they are stored to the truck bed.
It's not for carrying long distance, it's for taking as much as you can carry in a hurry.
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12-30-2012, 07:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emt1581
I could do that. I haven't been to wal-mart in weeks though. I'm betting their shelves are bare except for the oddball stuff at this point. I may mosey on over just to take a gander at some point today. I need to stop at Tractor Supply for more Carhartt pants anyway...
-Emt1581
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Not near my stock of ammo right now..
..and I do not like to dip into my stock with me..(approx 2K)
..so I have been relying on the local Walmart/LGS for ammo.
Though I picked up a brick of 225 rds of .22 LR this week..
..the previous grocery runs yielded no 9mm, no .223 & no .22 LR
Sorta like an Easter Egg hunt...after everything has been picked clean!
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12-30-2012, 07:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirgi08
The smallest/least round I'd ever try ta take a deer with is a .22mag.'08.
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.17 HMR would work with fairly close head shots. Never tried it, but I'm certain it would work just fine. Smallest thing I've ever shot a deer with so far is a .308.
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12-30-2012, 08:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirgi08
The smallest/least round I'd ever try ta take a deer with is a .22mag.'08.
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I bet you would change your mind if .22 LR was all that you had, and your family was starving. I am not advocating it, but it is possible. Talk to some Depression era folks who were in that position, and they will tell you. In a true SHTF situation nothing is predictable and the works can't and won't should probably be largely deleted from a person's vocabulary.
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12-30-2012, 08:24
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I was at the local wally world yesterday and boy howdy, the ammo shelves were bare! I grabbed a box of Remington 22LR, the new and improved one, and grabbed a box of 22 shorts because it was the last one in the case and I've wanted to try them out for a bit. Guy behind me cleaned out the .40 and the guy behind him cleaned out the 9 (at 16 bucks a box). I'm not freaking out about ammo, but a lot of people sure are.
Posted from my car phone.
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