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Old 12-21-2012, 08:23   #21
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No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
I'll give you the forged frame and slide but it's well known that, these guns aren't $399 or below NOW..... not even close.....and the rest of the small parts are junk. Including a hammer safety that's been known to turn them into a single shot.
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Old 12-21-2012, 13:17   #22
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Yeah, I'm not sure where he gets "under $400". They may have been that during their introductory period 6 or 7 years ago for a short while.
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Old 12-21-2012, 13:23   #23
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Can I be a 1911 snob too? I had a Taurus and traded it off. And I don't like SA Loaded's either.

You're definitely in that category, Joe.

As for the Loaded, I've never been real big on it either, but it feels like an Ed Brown after handling the Taurus.
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Old 12-21-2012, 13:25   #24
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Yes you can.

It's one of my personal goals.
You're next in the 1911-snob club, SG.

I nominate Joe as the president.

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Old 12-21-2012, 13:30   #25
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I picked up a new Springfield GI a few years ago. I do find it ironic that the idea of a retro 1911 with the Springfield logo is made in SOUTH America....but the price was right ($450 or so), and it's been a good pistol.

I've got a few Kimbers, a few Colts, a Bauer and a Brown....while you can't compare them for looks and workmanship, I wouldn't feel like I was too disadvantaged with the Brasilian made Springfield in a pinch.
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Old 12-21-2012, 17:44   #26
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That Springfield is nothing but a glorified import house is not exactly a news flash. They never made a fully made in USA 1911. I WILL concede they make a good 1911 but don't care for the deceptive advertising. Same goes for Blackhawks nylon products- made in Vietnam
The only product they ever made completely in the USA with American parts was the early m1A but that has not been the case in at least 2 decades
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That Springfield is nothing but a glorified import house is not exactly a news flash. They never made a fully made in USA 1911. I WILL concede they make a good 1911 but don't care for the deceptive advertising. Same goes for Blackhawks nylon products- made in Vietnam
The only product they ever made completely in the USA with American parts was the early m1A but that has not been the case in at least 2 decades
Well, believe it or not but most shooters or gun owners do not know that Springfield Armory is an arms merchant and not a manufacturer.
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Old 12-21-2012, 20:27   #28
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As for the <$400 PT-1911, I pre-ordered once I heard they were going to hit the market. I got one of the first run of Ruger 1911s the same was as the busiest FFL in Oregon is a friend.
Well, everyone else is paying $5 to $600 for them now.
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Old 12-21-2012, 21:35   #29
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That happens with successful products.
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That happens with successful products.
It's been successful, but that doesn't necessarily mean its good.

There's no way you can tell me the PT is as good as others in its price range, like the Ruger, Desert Eagle, or STI Spartan.
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Old 12-21-2012, 22:12   #31
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It's not as nice as the Ruger which is basically a stainless Caspian 1911 with above average parts. You could barely build a stainless Caspian with the parts included in the Ruger in the low $600s. I've no experience with the others you mention. The PT 1911 was a good value when it first came out but not worth what they are asking for them these days.

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Old 12-21-2012, 22:13   #32
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You're next in the 1911-snob club, SG.

I nominate Joe as the president.

I'll take VP status, but YOU are da man.
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It's not as nice as the Ruger which is basically a stainless Caspian 1911 with above average parts. I've no experience with the others you mention. It was a good value when it first came out but not worth what they are asking for them these days.
Under $400 is a solid value, as long as you get a good one.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:17   #34
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Successful to the misinformed buyers maybe, but they don't fly off the shelves like they used to.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:42   #35
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Successful to the misinformed buyers maybe, but they don't fly off the shelves like they used to.
Yeah, I don't think they are selling like they used to. There are many better options now.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:01   #36
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country or origin does not indicate quality nor does price.

some the best 1911s come from an island nation in the pacific and cost half that of a basic American made Colt.
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some the best 1911s come from an island nation in the pacific and cost half that of a basic American made Colt.

Some of the "best"?? um no..... not even close. If someone wanted a cheap 1911 that has honest quality they can go Norinco, or Ruger.
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....it's a good thing we don't have any 1911-snobs!
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country or origin does not indicate quality nor does price.

some the best 1911s come from an island nation in the pacific and cost half that of a basic American made Colt.
I hope you're not implying the Filipino 1911s are some of the best. They're good in their price range.

When it comes to new 1911s, the price usually does equal quality.

Anybody thinking sub $500 1911s are some of the best, needs to learn a bit.
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....it's a good thing we don't have any 1911-snobs!
Pointing out facts does not make one a snob.
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