Brazilian made, not just Taurus

cciman · 12-20-2012, 18:20

Just realized that my SA loaded, that I had to send back for service was 'made in Brazil -Imbel".

My Taurus PT1911 is also made in Brazil, has more standard features and did not need factory trigger service, and cost $300 less. Hmmm...

glock2740 · 12-20-2012, 19:03

Sell it.

FLIPPER 348 · 12-20-2012, 19:06

they are both good 1911s

.....unless you are a 1911-snob

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 19:34

You just now realized it was made in Brazil?

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 19:36

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Originally Posted by cciman

My Taurus PT1911 is also made in Brazil, has more standard features and did not need factory trigger service, and cost $300 less. Hmmm...

Yeah, that one is a great value. Why pay $2500 for a Wilson when you can get a Taurus for a fifth of the price with the same features?

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 19:41

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

.....unless you are a 1911-snob

In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

Jim S. · 12-20-2012, 19:57

There is nothing wrong with the Springfield Armory guns made in Brazil.
Imbel has been making firearms for a long time.
They make guns for the military in Brazil and several other nations militaries.
The quality of the steel made in Brazil is first rate.
No problem as far as I can see.
Springfield's customer service is excellent, which makes the higher price a better deal to me than the lower priced Taurus and their almost non existant customer service.
Try sending your PT1911 back and then compare the two.

Jim S. · 12-20-2012, 19:58

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Originally Posted by bac1023

In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

You get to be a 1911 snob.

I think most would agree with that.

smokin762 · 12-20-2012, 20:05

I would buy the Springfield in a heartbeat. I have owned them before. I have never had a problem with mine.

The Taurus, I gave that Company 5 tries. They failed me every time. If somebody gave me one, I would sell it unfired. That way I would have a clear conscience about its reliability. That comes from my own personal experience. Not any internet giber gabber.

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 20:16

The only thing Springfield's entry level 1911s and the Taurus have in common is their country of origin.

One is a high quality gun built from great IMBEL forgings and the other is a POS marketing gimmick.

I'm not sure why people compare them.

Ruggles · 12-20-2012, 20:19

I have owned many a Taurus as well.

I think they make pretty good revolvers, I would carry one with confidence. Their semi autos are a bit different. The one based directly on the Beretta 92 seems like a solid gun. They even put the safety in the right place unlike Beretta

The rest of the semi autos from them have never caught my fancy, including the PT1911s.

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Ruggles

I have owned many a Taurus as well.

I think they make pretty good revolvers, I would carry one with confidence. Their semi autos are a bit different. The one based directly on the Beretta 92 seems like a solid gun. They even put the safety in the right place unlike Beretta

The rest of the semi autos from them have never caught my fancy, including the PT1911s.

We have identical feelings on Taurus. I like my PT92 and revolvers. That's it.

FLIPPER 348 · 12-20-2012, 20:32

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Originally Posted by bac1023

In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.

Ruggles · 12-20-2012, 20:42

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.

And with the gold bling version serve well in the "who you eye balling ho, where my damn money?" role for any self respecting pimp!

bac1023 · 12-20-2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.

Sub $400?

If they were that cheap, I wouldn't bash them. The problem is the Filipino 1911s are around $400 and are nicer guns, in my opinion.

Ruggles · 12-20-2012, 21:12

First PT1911 I saw was at Gander Mt when they first came out. $399 was the price. I opted for a High Standard 1911 for the same price instead. The FS checkering on the PT1911 was horrid, just turned me off the entire gun.

glock2740 · 12-20-2012, 21:19

Can I be a 1911 snob too? I had a Taurus and traded it off. And I don't like SA Loaded's either.

FLIPPER 348 · 12-20-2012, 22:34

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Originally Posted by bac1023

Sub $400?

If they were that cheap, I wouldn't bash them.

I got mine when they first came out for $369. How much did yours cost??

sawgrass · 12-20-2012, 22:55

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Originally Posted by glock2740

Can I be a 1911 snob too? I had a Taurus and traded it off. And I don't like SA Loaded's either.

Yes you can.

It's one of my personal goals.

bac1023 · 12-21-2012, 04:10

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

I got mine when they first came out for $369. How much did yours cost??

I didn't get one when it first came out. I think I paid $450. Now, they are $500-$600 and up.

MD357 · 12-21-2012, 07:23

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.

I'll give you the forged frame and slide but it's well known that, these guns aren't $399 or below NOW..... not even close.....and the rest of the small parts are junk. Including a hammer safety that's been known to turn them into a single shot.

bac1023 · 12-21-2012, 12:17

Yeah, I'm not sure where he gets "under $400". They may have been that during their introductory period 6 or 7 years ago for a short while.

bac1023 · 12-21-2012, 12:23

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Originally Posted by glock2740

Can I be a 1911 snob too? I had a Taurus and traded it off. And I don't like SA Loaded's either.

You're definitely in that category, Joe.

As for the Loaded, I've never been real big on it either, but it feels like an Ed Brown after handling the Taurus.

bac1023 · 12-21-2012, 12:25

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Originally Posted by sawgrass

Yes you can.

It's one of my personal goals.

You're next in the 1911-snob club, SG.

I nominate Joe as the president.

***FullClip*** · 12-21-2012, 12:30

I picked up a new Springfield GI a few years ago. I do find it ironic that the idea of a retro 1911 with the Springfield logo is made in SOUTH America....but the price was right ($450 or so), and it's been a good pistol.

I've got a few Kimbers, a few Colts, a Bauer and a Brown....while you can't compare them for looks and workmanship, I wouldn't feel like I was too disadvantaged with the Brasilian made Springfield in a pinch.