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12-12-2012, 15:07
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You're Good!
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Originally Posted by Geko45
Do ya'll have cookies? I'll only come to the Dark Side if there are cookies.
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Cookies, fudge, icing and pizza w everything.
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12-12-2012, 15:12
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You're Good!
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Originally Posted by Durden
You could have gotten a faster, better machine for about 1/4 the price, but congrats!
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Not by the time you buy all the stuff you need thats missing remove all the bloatware and get it configged the way you like.
Pc s are only cheap to start. Then its death by 1000 cuts.
Better machine? Not possible. Backlit chiclets, batt life, energy mgmt, displays, mag safe power cords, usb3, onboard cam quality, Airport, Time machine...
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12-12-2012, 15:29
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Originally Posted by Big Bird
What's the big deal with memory upgrade? Took a screwdriver and about 10 minutes to add 8 GB of RAM to my iMAC. Works great. Did I miss something?
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I have been told the new ones that are just being released isn't near as easy as the last model. On mine, a 2011, a panel just unscrews but I don't think the new generation of them will be like that.
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12-12-2012, 15:30
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#29
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Senior Member
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Location: SouthWest VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geko45
Do ya'll have cookies? I'll only come to the Dark Side if there are cookies.
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and we drink cool-aid but that goes well with cookies
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12-12-2012, 15:33
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BUBBA ARMY
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Phoenix, Az.
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Originally Posted by kylenewman
I've got two new 27inch IMacs coming Monday. One is a i7 GTX680mx with 1tb fusion drive and I'm installing 32gb of ram. The other is a base 27inch I bought for my parents.
I've been a on again off again Apple user for the past 15 years. My PC finally crapped out and I was sick of fixing it.
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I still have my older iMac, but still fast as hell. And hoo boy, look how thin the new ones are !!
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It will be weeks before the general population discovers that you can't wipe your ass with a laptop.
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12-12-2012, 15:37
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Originally Posted by IndianaMatt
That's one of the things that ultimately brought me to Apple. Their stuff is simply well-made. Solid. My MacBook has an all-metal body and a glass screen.
My wife's MacBook is almost eight years old and still runs as well as the day she bought it. Say that for a PC machine.
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I'm typing this from a Lenovo X220 i7 with a 160GB SSD and 8gb of RAM and could never go to a mushy Apple keyboard no matter what.
Who gets 19 to 22 hours of battery life with a 9 cell battery using wifi, full i7 processing speed and with an IPS screen at 60% brightness, on an X220 that was less than $900?
<--- This guy
I like Apple, but it is an Intel chipset you're now on, after all, and after having had a Macbook in the past, can honestly state I think they're waaay overpriced, and that Thinkpads are are better build and less expensive. I'd only get an Apple if I was a graphic designer and then I'd get the Macbook Pro.
But that's what makes a free market, so congrats (really).
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12-12-2012, 15:46
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Point is, I'm not loyal to many brands, unless really given a reason.
So far, a few days with the new MacBook, and I can really see why the cult of Apple has such loyal followers.
Its a durable, clean, handsome design. The software is intuitive in a way that Windows can't seem to be. The layout is slick and a pleasure to look at. Its difficult to stop playing with this laptop and get back to work today.
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12-12-2012, 15:46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: South Eastern PA
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Originally Posted by Glock30Eric
Don't worry they are poor and they couldn't afford a MAC product.
Microsoft will go out of business in a decade from now. Business and Educations are swapping PC to Mac.
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Have you lost your mind? Haha! 
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12-12-2012, 15:58
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianaMatt
Point is, I'm not loyal to many brands, unless really given a reason.
So far, a few days with the new MacBook, and I can really see why the cult of Apple has such loyal followers.
Its a durable, clean, handsome design. The software is intuitive in a way that Windows can't seem to be. The layout is slick and a pleasure to look at. Its difficult to stop playing with this laptop and get back to work today.
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The days of solid reasons for Apple to have a "cult of loyal users" have passed.
The only thing Apple still does relatively well is marketing, and even that is waning.
DEAR APPLE: I'm Leaving You
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12-12-2012, 16:01
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Durden
The days of solid reasons for Apple to have a "cult of loyal users" have passed.
The only thing Apple still does relatively well is marketing, and even that is waning.
DEAR APPLE: I'm Leaving You
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I've been reading the same thing for a decade about Apple.
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12-12-2012, 16:09
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I like Macs
Join Date: May 2003
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Welcome to our side!
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12-12-2012, 16:10
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RTF2 Addict
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Kettering, OH
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congrats. My mom just got a Macbook Air. It's at my hose until Christmas though
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12-12-2012, 16:14
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sturgis Michigan
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Congratulations and welcome to the club. I still love my first gen MacBook Pro. It continues to be a solid, bug free, worry free piece of excellence. I will never go back to a PC. Yes it was more expensive, and it was worth every penny.
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12-12-2012, 16:14
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Sheriffs a near
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird
What's the big deal with memory upgrade? Took a screwdriver and about 10 minutes to add 8 GB of RAM to my iMAC. Works great. Did I miss something?
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The irony of the information age is that we can't necessarily trust all the information.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
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12-12-2012, 16:16
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BOOM headshot
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New Mexico
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My two newest computers are Apple.
13" MacBook Air and a 21" iMac.
Mehhhh... they're computers not family members.
If I had it to do over again I'd probably buy a nice all in one Ubuntu machine for the family room and buy a Samsung or Lenovo Ultrabook and dual boot Win8/Ubuntu as my laptop.
My Mac's are nice and all but there's definitely a "Apple $urcharge" that so far I haven't been able to justify (especially over a well set up Linux Ubuntu machine).
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12-12-2012, 16:20
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Senior Member
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Location: new england
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Originally Posted by cgwahl
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Guitar pick or plastic pizza cutter to cut the adhesive tape. Pull the panel off disconnect the cable to the display. Then you unscrew the logic board and fans. Flip the logic board over and insert ram. Reassemble and remove the old adhesive tape and replace with new tape. It's not easy but is definitely not impossible. The 27inch has an access panel in he back to replace ram.
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12-12-2012, 16:21
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Durden
The days of solid reasons for Apple to have a "cult of loyal users" have passed.
The only thing Apple still does relatively well is marketing, and even that is waning.
DEAR APPLE: I'm Leaving You
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Marketing has nothing to do with it.
I don't own a television, so I didn't see their commercials. I'm 32 years old with no friends, so its not about "showing off" for me. I'm very un-hip and I'm glad to be.
My choice to abandon PC came from over a decade of struggling with them, while watching Mac users not having to spend time "debugging," "defragmenting," installing countless virus programs, and replacing their machines every four years.
The biggest "marketing" Apple did to win my confidence is my personal use of my wife's Mac for a couple of years.
Its so obvious I'm amazed it took me this long to realize it.
Home computing doesn't have to be painful, PC guys.
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12-12-2012, 16:25
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#43
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by cgwahl
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I don't see what the big deal is with "upgradeability."
You don't see people buying work trucks and looking into their "upgradeability," because people know to buy enough truck for the tasks they intend to use it for.
Similarly, buy enough computer from the outset and you won't need to "upgrade."
Its a null point.
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12-12-2012, 16:26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Solsbury Hill
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Love my iMac, so does everyone in the family. We also love our iPhones and iPods.
I love the simple software. I'll never buy another PC.
Ditto on the schools changing to Mac. Its becoming more popular here.
The hell with Windows and PCs.
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12-12-2012, 16:26
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Georgia
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Congrats! If you ever get to missing Windows, it's extremely easy to install alongside OS X.
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12-12-2012, 16:31
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CLM Number 120
Mr. CISSP, CISA
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianaMatt
I grew up with the viruses, bluescreens, and disposable hardware of PC. This year, I had enough and I joined the cult of Apple with a new MacBook Pro.
What a machine! I cannot see how I will ever go back. And the Apple store was the exact opposite of going to Best Buy: a great retail experience; no pressure; no noise; no warranties to buy - in an out in literally 15 minutes.
Look at my baby:
[not my pic tho]
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First things first. I hope you are very happy with your new product. Most people are happy when they get a new computer (Apple, Microsoft, and Linux).
Second thing. Load a flavour of linux on your old system. See what you think. You should be able to do this for free.
Third, come back in 1-3 years and tell us if you are still in love with your product. Remember to include cost projections.
BTW, I am not against Apple, but I do live in a world of mostly Windows and am currently typing on Linux.
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12-12-2012, 16:45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay9928
I still have my older iMac, but still fast as hell. And hoo boy, look how thin the new ones are !!

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What are you going to do with all of that space? Think of the things I could store if my monitor was 1/2" thinner.
It is neat but at what cost? Certainly makes it less serviceable.
Personally I would rather shove a rabid wolverine in my pants than admit to using an Apple product.
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12-12-2012, 16:51
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restless28
Love my iMac, so does everyone in the family. We also love our iPhones and iPods.
I love the simple software. I'll never buy another PC.
Ditto on the schools changing to Mac. Its becoming more popular here.
The hell with Windows and PCs.
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Simplicity is one of the main reasons I picked Mac.
I hate technology. I like to browse the web, and a computer is mandatory for my work, so a laptop in my life is a sort of necessity.
But its because I hate technology that I've abandoned PC. I don't want to look under the hood of my computer and learn about kernels and root directories: I just want it to work.
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12-12-2012, 16:57
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Sheriffs a near
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 10,796
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianaMatt
I don't see what the big deal is with "upgradeability."
You don't see people buying work trucks and looking into their "upgradeability," because people know to buy enough truck for the tasks they intend to use it for.
Similarly, buy enough computer from the outset and you won't need to "upgrade."
Its a null point.
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Some people like to buy the RAM separately to save a few hundred dollars. This is an attempt to prevent that. It's Apples right...just annoying.
Also makes it a pain in the butt to deal with something going bad after the fact. Such as replace the hard drive.
As a whole, does not fully prevent people from getting inside it, but it is a lot harder than just taking a screwdriver and removing a cover to get to the RAM, hard drive and whatever else people decide to do inside it.
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The irony of the information age is that we can't necessarily trust all the information.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
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12-12-2012, 17:03
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THE BRIGADE
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: nc
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pc user here ,
had a pc since 1996 , i must be lucky , ive never had a blue screen , bad virus , or another other major disaster on pc .
and ive owned different brands and laptops .
people can like Apple or pc , i still dont see the need to fanboy it up .
i dont like proprietary devices or hardware . and Apple is
would i buy one ? nope but to those who like that sort of thing congrats
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