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Old 11-18-2012, 20:09   #1
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Black Rain Lower

So, I just ordered a 300 AAC upper from PSA and got a Black Rain lower from cheaperthandirt. after putting the two pieces together, I am not happy with the fit of the lower. Anyone else have one of these lowers and have a similar experience?
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Old 11-18-2012, 22:31   #2
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I always thought that the black rain stuff was WAY OVERPRICED for what you got. I really like STAG rifles- I have a couple...they seem to be a good value for what you are paying for.
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Old 11-18-2012, 22:35   #3
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Every black rain product I have seen is gimmicky garbage consisting of horrible machining and overpriced.
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Old 11-18-2012, 22:45   #4
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That's abysmal. I would be on the phone with them.
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Old 11-18-2012, 22:52   #5
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Return it and get a MEGA lower. Mega makes some of the highest quality AR parts on the market.
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Old 11-18-2012, 23:08   #6
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I left them a message about the issue.
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Old 11-19-2012, 14:08   #7
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Did you try installing the takedown and pivot pin, then fitting the two together?
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Old 11-19-2012, 15:25   #8
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yes, I just did that. I had to use a rubber mallet to get it to work, but after it is together the fit is good. unfortunately you have to use a mallet to get it apart, but I guess too tight is better than too lose.

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I feel like I judged it too soon, I just didn't expect to have to use a mallet to get it together. once it is together it is tighter than my Stag.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:17   #9
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No, too tight is not better than too loose. Loose will not effect anything. Tight, to the point you need a mallet to get the receivers apart is bad. I guess you can purchase a pair of those jeans w/ the hammer loop and ware them whenever you go shooting.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:22   #10
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I feel like I judged it too soon, I just didn't expect to have to use a mallet to get it together. once it is together it is tighter than my Stag.
It will loosen. Sadly, the steel pin will wear away & oblong the
receiver holes. Not good.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:49   #11
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No, too tight is not better than too loose. Loose will not effect anything. Tight, to the point you need a mallet to get the receivers apart is bad. I guess you can purchase a pair of those jeans w/ the hammer loop and ware them whenever you go shooting.
lucky for me 5.11 tactical pants already have the loop.
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Old 11-19-2012, 18:04   #12
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lucky for me 5.11 tactical pants already have the loop.
Lucky you. Which ones?
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:34   #13
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These have a loop in the back


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Obviously not really for a hammer
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Old 11-19-2012, 21:09   #15
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I own all sorts of different 5.11's and had never seen the carpenters loop. Thought maybe you could show me something I missed.

Seriously though, having to use a mallet to separate receivers is not good.
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Old 11-19-2012, 21:14   #16
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that would not be acceptable in my book

I have built Spikes, POF, Stag, Rock River and other lowers and have never had to use anything but my fingers to push the pins in

I would be asking for a refund
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Old 11-19-2012, 22:11   #17
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that would not be acceptable in my book

I have built Spikes, POF, Stag, Rock River and other lowers and have never had to use anything but my fingers to push the pins in

I would be asking for a refund
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Old 11-19-2012, 22:24   #18
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that would not be acceptable in my book

I have built Spikes, POF, Stag, Rock River and other lowers and have never had to use anything but my fingers to push the pins in

I would be asking for a refund
To be clear, the pins go right in. I use a mallet to tap the lower forward. Once it is in place the pins slip right in. I have called them, so we shall see.
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To be clear, the pins go right in. I use a mallet to tap the lower forward. Once it is in place the pins slip right in. I have called them, so we shall see.
what you are describing is an out of spec lower receiver. Don't let them off the hook for this. They will just keep producing ****.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:47   #20
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Get rid of that lower, it's out of spec. Looks like black rain focuses more on making cool looking logos and other gimmicks than in making good American firearm parts.
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