[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me

You are so full of crap.. MOST officer deaths are traffic /vehicle related... even the rookiest of all rookies has that beaten into their head.


I do not even want to touch your holier than thou attitude that you never roll a stop sign..you are a liar. You have also exceeded the speed limit and done other things without hitting your blue lights...we all have.

I wouldn't be talking about rookies when you should know that a traffic stop of any kind is automatically traffic/vehicle related...that's why it's called a traffic stop. What do people use for transportation there, spaceships??


I speed, sure. In my own vehicles and my PPV...but I don't roll stop signs unless I absolutely need to, and when I do I flash my overheads...that is no lie. And I'm talking about rolling stop signs as in barely even slowing down...not like the OP in the other thread likely got cited for, as in his wheels never stopped turning completely.

Originally Posted by golls17

In the other thread:

He admitted to not being on SWAT, but his buddies were. Here's what I could find using "[county] swat death" on google.



Squadoosh

Goose egg.


http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/st-j...166383546.html

No mention of SWAT deaths, so let's give the benefit of the doubt that they were SWAT members (even though the article doesn't say) and SWAT just wasn't activated yet.

Nada



I narrowed it down to a possibility for ya...

Now you're getting cold...

[GRIMLET]

Im betting 80/20 on Ascension Parish over St. Charles.
I rule out St. Tammany and Madison all together.
Since he is here battling it out, I stand by my original observations that he is a good guy.

The idea someone has to live up to a fellow officers expectation as a cop is stupid. For all we know, some of the heavy posters here may be THAT GUY in their dept.
About nepotism, its not about how you got hired, its performing whats expected of you afterwards.
I have been told here to prove my credentials. Being nice and new, I gave my academy name, class number and graduation date.
Still, when I post somethings here, I am challenged to reveal my dept and/or ORI.

I am going to get a chuckle when he proves the nay saying haters wrong.

[Dragoon44]

Of course...but I leave all that at work, I don't drag it home, or on the internet. I used to do it, and I learned it just makes you look like an ******* to everyone, and started to cause me problems.

That might reflect more the type of individuals you hang out with than the reality of what becomes ingrained in veteran police officers.

To a certain degree, yes...but that's not the problem. I absolutely, cannot stand...when people assume just because I'm in LE I automatically support every LEO's opinion.

it is not about automatically supporting every LEO opinion. it's about whether or not your responses to LE related topics reflect any training or experience in LE. As I stated before having read your posts over the years I do not see LE knowledge or experience expressed in your posts. You are every bit as quick to jump on the Anti LEO bandwagon as those with no training or experience.

Not anti-authority...Libertarian,

Libertarians are anti Authority whether they want to admit it or not. and judging from past interaction with you over the CSA I would say you are neo confederate as well.

[golls17]

Originally Posted by tantrix

Now you're getting cold...

Is this better?

Of those 4 counties, since 1996, this is all that's on file from ODMP

Bio & Incident Details

Age: 35
Tour: 10 years
Badge # 4106
Cause: Weather/Natural disaster
Incident Date: 6/13/2007
Weapon: Not available
Suspect: Not available



Sergeant Linden (Beau) Raimer was killed when a rotted pine tree hit his patrol car.

Sergeant Raimer and passenger were in the funeral procession for Deputy Sheriff Hilery A. Mayo Jr., when the accident happened. The procession was moving through Covington when a violent thunderstorm knocked down numerous trees from Slidell to Covington. A large pine tree hit his patrol car on 21st Avenue, crushing the top of the vehicle and killing Sergeant Raimer instantly. The deputy riding with him, who was also his fiance, was taken to St. Tammany Parish Hospital, paralyzed from the chest down.

Sergeant Raimer had served with the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Office for 10 years. He is survived by his parents, sister, two nephews, and fiance.


Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/18914-se...#ixzz2CERfUhFN

Bio & Incident Details

Age: 32
Tour: 10 years
Badge # 4610
Cause: Automobile accident
Incident Date: 6/9/2007
Weapon: Not available
Suspect: Not available


Deputy Hilery Mayo was killed in an automobile accident on Louisiana 40 while he and another deputy responded to an emergency call.

The patrol car left the roadway, went into a ditch, and then struck a tree. Deputy Mayo was killed and the other deputy, who was riding in the passenger seat, was seriously injured. Both deputies were wearing their seat belts.

Deputy Mayo had served with the St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Office since 1997. He is survived by his wife, mother, sister, and brother.

Sergeant Linden "Beau" Raimer was killed when a pine tree that had been struck by lightning hit his patrol car while in the funeral procession for Deputy Mayo.


Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/18911-de...#ixzz2CERnbAxt

Both were St. Tammany. They may have been SWAT, but if this is them, it certainly wasn't a SWAT situation like you made it sound like.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

Im betting 80/20 on Ascension Parish over St. Charles.
I rule out St. Tammany and Madison all together.

Pretty good...I'll give one hint and say: Madison is NOT it.

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

Since he is here battling it out, I stand by my original observations that he is a good guy.

The sad part is, I never even claimed to be a good guy...it's the whole "LE is a secret society" thing that's in play here. I got over that within one year of being POST.

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

The idea someone has to live up to a fellow officers expectation as a cop is stupid. For all we know, some of the heavy posters here may be THAT GUY in their dept.

Not on the internet...everyone loves all their fellow officers as if they were raised together like brothers.

I guess that's why I've seen 2 city PD officers from a nearby large dept beat the hell out of each other one night at a BBQ...yeah, they still don't like one another to this day.

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

I have been told here to prove my credentials. Being nice and new, I gave my academy name, class number and graduation date.
Still, when I post somethings here, I am challenged to reveal my dept and/or ORI.

I know...I've had the same thing happen on another forum before, that's why I'm in no hurry. As I said earlier, I don't get paid enough to produce credentials on demand to uphold my internet street cred.

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

I am going to get a chuckle when he proves the nay saying haters wrong.

Hey now, I'm trying to enjoy the ride as long as possible.

[Hoser423]

My crystal ball predicts the next avenue of excuses and stalling ..."I'm not gonna put my whole name, department and ORI info on the internet."

If it was me, and if I really wanted to put it to rest... I would have PM'ed the most vocal critics, or a moderator, or both, enough info to prove I was a sworn LEO.

Door #1- Not sworn LEO (it's fine just admit it)
Door #2- Sworn LEO, purposely being difficult because he's "THAT GUY"

[golls17]

Originally Posted by Hoser423

My crystal ball predicts the next avenue of excuses and stalling ..."I'm not gonna put my whole name, department and ORI info on the internet."

If it was me, and if I really wanted to put it to rest... I would have PM'ed the most vocal critics, or a moderator, or both, enough info to prove I was a sworn LEO.

Door #1- Not sworn LEO (its' fine just admit it)
Door #2- Sworn LEO, purposely being difficult because he's "THAT GUY"

I would be satisfied with him PMing Rabbi and having Rabbi post for all of us a thumbs up.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

You are every bit as quick to jump on the Anti LEO bandwagon as those with no training or experience.

I am not anti-LEO...I am simply tired of of the "club" mentality, that's what caused me problems to begin with early on in my career.

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

Libertarians are anti Authority whether they want to admit it or not. and judging from past interaction with you over the CSA I would say you are neo confederate as well.

I'm not anti-authority, I am small-government. There is a difference.

Originally Posted by golls17

Is this better?

No, I didn't know those guys.

I won't string you along though, here's why you're cold: They were city PD SWAT, not the Parish Sheriff's Office where I am. I have never worked for any city PD.

[golls17]

Originally Posted by tantrix

Hey now, I'm trying to enjoy the ride as long as possible.

Originally Posted by tantrix

I won't string you along though

Huh?

OK fine, of LODD by gunfire (since that is what is generally assumed when you say you lost two SWAT buddies), none of the cities that had multiple fatalities in that time period were in any 4 of those counties.

So either say how they died and I'll do the rest when I get home tonight, or admit that you're full of it and can't keep your own stories straight.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by golls17

Huh?

On the the research you were doing...wrong direction.

[GRIMLET]

Originally Posted by Hoser423

My crystal ball predicts the next avenue of excuses and stalling ..."I'm not gonna put my whole name, department and ORI info on the internet."

If it was me, and if I really wanted to put it to rest... I would have PM'ed the most vocal critics, or a moderator, or both, enough info to prove I was a sworn LEO.

Door #1- Not sworn LEO (its' fine just admit it)
Door #2- Sworn LEO, purposely being difficult because he's "THAT GUY"

Why would anyone do that?
A hurt butt could dredge up old posts about breaking traffic laws on duty or being a kick ass cop and call their mayor or chief.
To those demanding proof, I say, post YOUR name. YOUR badge number
YOUR dept YOUR ORI. How about a direct link to your facebook?
And post it openly.

Heh Heh Heh

Only a fool would do so.




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[GRIMLET]

Originally Posted by tantrix

On the the research you were doing...wrong direction.

But the research was INSIDE the box!!!!
It must be right.


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[golls17]

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

But the research was INSIDE the box!!!!
It must be right.


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I just went outside the box (see my edits to my previous post). Hell, I'll do a whole friggin' explosion of the box when I get home tonight. I have a feeling this will be dispelled soon.

ETA: If this gets locked before I do so (which I have a feeling it might, though I hope not), PM me if you want the results of what I find. I'm at home with my daughter during the day. All I have to do is put in a Mickey Mouse DVD and I've got all the free time I need!

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

But the research was INSIDE the box!!!!
It must be right.


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Honestly, I'm surprised people are this persistent...I'm kind of impressed, but weirded out at the same time. I have never, in my 9 years of LE work, asked anyone to provide credentials to me over the internet. If we were on a Secret Service forum or something, yeah...but LEO's are a dime a dozen in comparison.

Originally Posted by golls17

I just went outside the box (see my edits to my previous post). Hell, I'll do a whole friggin' explosion of the box when I get home tonight. I have a feeling this will be dispelled soon.

I'm home in 1 1/2 hours...post more of your theories, I'll tell you if you're getting closer or not. I will admit, the SWAT incident is pretty hard to get...unless you find some posts of mine on LE forums linking articles to it, it's gonna be difficult. I might have to drop more hints.

[Hoser423]

@ Grimlet--- I agree, I wouldn't post my own info either... thats why I suggested the PMs to a reliable clearinghouse.
Holding my breath !!!

[Rabbi]

Originally Posted by tantrix

Honestly, I'm surprised people are this persistent...I'm kind of impressed, but weirded out at the same time. I have never, in my 9 years of LE work, asked anyone to provide credentials to me over the internet. If we were on a Secret Service forum or something, yeah...but LEO's are a dime a dozen in comparison.




I'm home in 1 1/2 hours...post more of your theories, I'll tell you if you're getting closer or not. I will admit, the SWAT incident is pretty hard to get...unless you find some posts of mine on LE forums linking articles to it, it's gonna be difficult. I might have to drop more hints.

I am not interested in your game.

You are evasive.

You hide behind vague statements that you might be a cop in order to prove your points about cops.

You post contradictions.

You lack an understanding of basic Law Enforcement procedures.

No matter what, it is everyone else who is wrong.

You are some lone rightious person on a mission to right the wrongs that all other cops have.

It is your *brother* posting under your screen name.

And a pile of other things.

Now, if you were an LEO, what would you think about such a person?

Besides the obvious, no matter what you are, I would also say you lack honor and are not the most stable person. You insist on making sure we KNOW that.

Now, is that the result you are looking for? (or all we all just wrong again?)

Good luck and get well.

[GRIMLET]

Originally Posted by golls17

I just went outside the box (see my edits to my previous post). Hell, I'll do a whole friggin' explosion of the box when I get home tonight. I have a feeling this will be dispelled soon.

ETA: If this gets locked before I do so (which I have a feeling it might, though I hope not), PM me if you want the results of what I find. I'm at home with my daughter during the day. All I have to do is put in a Mickey Mouse DVD and I've got all the free time I need!

Im just having fun with you.
Im just wondering, if you find the murdered officers names, how will that help identify Tantrix?
He said he has seen two Swat friends killed. That doesnt mean he works for the same agency. Some small agencies accept help from larger local agencies.
Also. some people yse the term seen in different ways.
I have seen a friend of mine deploy 4 times overseas. I never put eyes on him leaving, in country or returning. Do you see what I mean.

Beware the box.


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[TBO]

He stated he was there when the bad guys were "pumping .308 rounds into my swat buddies" and he had 7 or so bullet holes in his own squad door.

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[GRIMLET]

Originally Posted by Hoser423

@ Grimlet--- I agree, I wouldn't post my own info either... thats why I suggested the PMs to a reliable clearinghouse.
Holding my breath !!!

Reliable is the key. An unknown challenger who has no ethicl/legal expectation to keep the info private isnt going to get it.
I have put more than most who post out there.
I would only trust Eric, the owner.


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[GRIMLET]

Originally Posted by TBO

He stated he was there when the bad guys were "pumping .308 rounds into my swat buddies" and he had 7 or so bullet holes in his own squad door.

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I missed that one. I retract my comment. Thanks for the clarification.


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[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Rabbi

I am not interested in your game.

No game here.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

You are evasive.

You're a LEO, are you not? Figure it out or stop.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

You hide behind vague statements that you might be a cop in order to prove your points about cops.

I'm not here to prove a point about "cops"...I don't work for the IAB.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

You post contradictions.

If you want to quote any specifically, I'll clear it up.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

You lack an understanding of basic Law Enforcement procedures.

That's your opinion. You've never been on the road here, and I've never been on the road there.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

No matter what, it is everyone else who is wrong.

Again, everything here is all opinion...I never stated I was the only "right one", you're the only one that has done that.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

You are some lone rightious person on a mission to right the wrongs that all other cops have.

Right what wrongs? LE is simply a profession, everybody has their own way of doing things.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

It is your *brother* posting under your screen name.

Yes, and as I said I made the account for him. What he was going through then can't possibly have anything to do with me, as all my children live with me.

Originally Posted by Rabbi

Now, if you were an LEO, what would you think about such a person?

Besides the obvious, no matter what you are, I would also say you lack honor and are not the most stable person. You insist on making sure we KNOW that.

Now, is that the result you are looking for? (or all we all just wrong again?)

Good luck and get well.

Again, all opinion. I have a clean criminal record, clean driving record, and have never been arrested or detained for any reason. What reason would you have to come to the conclusion you have come to? From your previous posts here, I'd say it's pointing towards frustration at this point...which is not an indicator of my mental stability whatsoever.

[BL33D 4 M3]

This thread has prompted me to update my profile. "Retired".

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by GRIMLET

Im just having fun with you.
Im just wondering, if you find the murdered officers names, how will that help identify Tantrix?
He said he has seen two Swat friends killed. That doesnt mean he works for the same agency. Some small agencies accept help from larger local agencies.
Also. some people yse the term seen in different ways.
I have seen a friend of mine deploy 4 times overseas. I never put eyes on him leaving, in country or returning. Do you see what I mean.

Beware the box.


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I already gave him a little help and told him I don't work for the same agency, never have...they were city PD, and parish deputies in the surrounding area also responded.

Originally Posted by TBO

He stated he was there when the bad guys were "pumping .308 rounds into my swat buddies" and he had 7 or so bullet holes in his own squad door.

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Actually, it was 7.62...the suspect had an AK. 6 rounds into the passenger side of my PPV during the ordeal, 2 SWAT officers dead.

[Rabbi]

Originally Posted by TBO

He stated he was there when the bad guys were "pumping .308 rounds into my swat buddies" and he had 7 or so bullet holes in his own squad door.

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Yes. Here is the quote.

Originally Posted by Tantrix

Wow...you really don't keep up with things do you? I've even posted 2 incidents here on GT where I was present and a shooting occurred. And no, the one where my 2 buddies were killed I wasn't SWAT, just a responding deputy...and had six 7.62 rounds in the side of my car.

[Rabbi]

Originally Posted by tantrix

No game here.




You're a LEO, are you not? Figure it out or stop.




I'm not here to prove a point about "cops"...I don't work for the IAB.



If you want to quote any specifically, I'll clear it up.




That's your opinion. You've never been on the road here, and I've never been on the road there.




Again, everything here is all opinion...I never stated I was the only "right one", you're the only one that has done that.




Right what wrongs? LE is simply a profession, everybody has their own way of doing things.




Yes, and as I said I made the account for him. What he was going through then can't possibly have anything to do with me, as all my children live with me.




Again, all opinion. I have a clean criminal record, clean driving record, and have never been arrested or detained for any reason. What reason would you have to come to the conclusion you have come to? From your previous posts here, I'd say it's pointing towards frustration at this point...which is not an indicator of my mental stability whatsoever.

Yes, of course, you have not stirred the pot at all, ever.

Everything you say makes perfect sense.

Everything is just an opinion, of course, yours is far better than others.

No one has a valid reason to think you are anything but perfect.

It is everyone else.

And of course, it is your brother.

Again, good luck and get well.