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Old 11-13-2012, 16:25   #51
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LOL. If I quit everytime a stupid policy came down, I would have been gone years ago.
Like snowflakes falling from the heavens, policy builds and builds forming a thickening blanket of insular administration stupid, only to be released into an avalanche of stupidity that will cause you to leave in disgust from your agency.

It is known as retirement and the relief is total.

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I think that guy really is a Deputy,,,, a Junior Deputy that is. I found where he got his Certificate.

http://www.cachesheriff.com/kids/JrDeputy.htm



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Old 11-13-2012, 17:27   #53
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Old 11-13-2012, 17:42   #54
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If Dragoon is right, an ORI would not help. ....... I see our ORI every time I print an arrest.
It kinda depends when you were in.

I started in 1977 ( we had 150MHZ AM radios, and patrolmen had to come in and spell the dispatcher for potty and lunch breaks.) and left my last department April Fool's day, 1990. (Auspicious, ain't it?)

There was probably an ORI on NCIC/CCIC printouts, but I'll be darned if I ever cared or even looked at it. If someone asked, I wouldn't have a clue.

I even had to run the computer terminal when relieving the dispatcher, but he/she always had it logged in.

Now, with all that newfangled high-tech stuff y'all probably use that stuff all the time.
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I had some camera time on this past week's episode of Lockup. Actually, I've been in every episode thus far, but my "interview" was on this week's show.
You will see my mug in the 2013 glock annual along with a few of my fellow SWAT members..and an interview...
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Some people are pretty niave if you think just knowing an ORI is proof someone is a LEO. Do a websearch on "ORI" and "law enforcement". You can easily get the ORI for just about any agency.
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Like snowflakes falling from the heavens, policy builds and builds forming a thickening blanket of insular administration stupid, only to be released into an avalanche of stupidity that will cause you to leave in disgust from your agency.

It is known as retirement and the relief is total.

If only I could retire. I would be gone in a heart beat.
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Some people are pretty niave if you think just knowing an ORI is proof someone is a LEO. Do a websearch on "ORI" and "law enforcement". You can easily get the ORI for just about any agency.
You will typically only find an ORI on a finger print card or an NCIC.
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You will see my mug in the 2013 glock annual along with a few of my fellow SWAT members..and an interview...
Is that why the 2013 issue is coming in a brown wrapper as not to frighten women and children?

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Is that why the 2013 issue is coming in a brown wrapper as not to frighten women and children?

I would recommend it all ur wimmens iz mine.........
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Old 11-13-2012, 19:29   #63
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You will typically only find an ORI on a finger print card or an NCIC.

They are on my State's accident form, the State arrest disposition form, our booking forms, and the like. Pretty common for us, though I can barely recall the Fed one I used to know.

The more an agency is automated, I would suspect that it would be needed less. Feds use it less than State or locals do.
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They are on my State's accident form, the State arrest disposition form, our booking forms, and the like. Pretty common for us, though I can barely recall the Fed one I used to know.

The more an agency is automated, I would suspect that it would be needed less. Feds use it less than State or locals do.
Same here, including each individual citation in our citation books.

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You will typically only find an ORI on a finger print card or an NCIC.
If you think ORIs are top secret and that the only place a person can get an ORI is from a fingerprint card or NCIC then you're pretty naive and/or inexperienced. Think again. Do the web search for "ORI" and "law enforcement". You find agency webpages where they list their ORI. You'll find informational websites where ORIs are listed. But the listing is open to anyone with a computer at the National Archives of Criminal Justice Data. Any kid with a computer can come up with an ORI and the agency name.
Do you want to pass yourself off as a LEO from PA and someone asks for your ORI to verify you're legit? What PA dept do you want to be from? Pick any of them.
http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/...Is/PAoris.html
Don't know anything about PA but want to look lke you're from KS?
http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/...Is/KSoris.html
Or you claim you're a LEO from TX and you can prove it because you know your dept's ORI?
http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/...Is/TXoris.html

Any other town, county, state, or agency you want to use an ORI as "proof" you're legit? They're all listed here.
http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/...STATESoris.jsp


Police-L has been around since 1994 or a bit earlier. LEO verification is required and the list owner contacts the person's agency to verify employment before access is granted. Even with that a phony was recently outted. He had written articles for various LEO type publications and pulled the scam on a number of agencies. Wrote articles for NLEOMF. He had passed himself of as a LEO from Dearborn MI and Inkster MI. Got caught in FL passing himself off as a LEO wearing the MI uniform and people started investigating. Total phony that fooled a lot of people but he eventually got caught.
http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/05...ill-shoot.aspx
A phony wearing a uniform and badge that he made himself.
He tried scamming a fundraiser:
http://www.firstgiving.com/fundraise...1/jamesdonahue
Here's what he looks like without his phony police uniform but wearing jail clothing.
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/J...nahue_5416686/
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I wasn't impressed...honestly, the majority of the place looks like turd central. I've come to the conclusion it's not worth it, too many idiots.
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Ya know, maybe there should be something like Rush does on Fridays, "Open Topic Friday on Cop Talk", say from 0900 to 2100. Invite all the GNGers in to talk about their favorite LE topics, and, as long as they stay within perhaps a more liberal interpretation of GT Rules, there would be a free exchange of ideas.

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Or you claim you're a LEO from TX and you can prove it because you know your dept's ORI?
I was pretty sure I knew what ours was, we used to have to put it on the family violence sheets, maybe we still do, but, its been years since I filled one out. But, seeing the number, it looks familiar.
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Wow, I'm surprised ORI's aren't kept quite as confidential as I thought. I just searched and found an excel spreadsheet with all of them for AZ. The few I know off the top of my head are correct. Still, most of the time, people won't know wtf an ori is.

Is this the same guy that claimed to be an MMA fighter about a year back? I searched, but it looks like the GT database got dumped at some point. He's got one post about how he trains with some photoshopped looking pics of "himself" in one thread. He also identifies himself as a leo back in March in a thread about the most overpaid professions.

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Wow, I'm surprised ORI's aren't kept quite as confidential as I thought. I just searched and found an excel spreadsheet with all of them for AZ. The few I know off the top of my head are correct. Still, most of the time, people won't know wtf an ori is.
They've been freely available on the internet to anyone who can do a simple websearch. The National Archive of Criminal Justice Data (National Institute of Justice) has had the list on the internet for years.
http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/...STATESoris.jsp
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Ya know, maybe there should be something like Rush does on Fridays, "Open Topic Friday on Cop Talk", say from 0900 to 2100. Invite all the GNGers in to talk about their favorite LE topics, and, as long as they stay within perhaps a more liberal interpretation of GT Rules, there would be a free exchange of ideas.

Yeah cuz were so open minded and all.

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Ya know, maybe there should be something like Rush does on Fridays, "Open Topic Friday on Cop Talk", say from 0900 to 2100. Invite all the GNGers in to talk about their favorite LE topics, and, as long as they stay within perhaps a more liberal interpretation of GT Rules, there would be a free exchange of ideas.

Can I go to the women's forum and post misogynistic rants?
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They've been freely available on the internet to anyone who can do a simple websearch.
I have unilaterally decided that all Fed, State, County, and local LE retirees should use the Canal Zone ORI as proof of affiliation.

Like the Canal Zone, we too no longer exist.
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Wow, I'm surprised ORI's aren't kept quite as confidential as I thought. I just searched and found an excel spreadsheet with all of them for AZ. The few I know off the top of my head are correct. Still, most of the time, people won't know wtf an ori is.

Is this the same guy that claimed to be an MMA fighter about a year back? I searched, but it looks like the GT database got dumped at some point. He's got one post about how he trains with some photoshopped looking pics of "himself" in one thread. He also identifies himself as a leo back in March in a thread about the most overpaid professions.
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And...... there goes the neighborhood...

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