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Old 11-01-2012, 14:33   #101
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It's a drug and needs to remain illegal so morons don't kill a fat one and drive down a small street with little kids flying over their hoods
Guess we better outlaw alcohol too.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:36   #102
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Why would they regulate it if it was legal?

They don't regulate tomatos now.

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This is why marijuana was made illegal,
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/...juana-illegal/

Corporations and government scratching each other's backs with money and power (plus lot's of opportunity for propaganda against those pesky brown people) brought us to this and the same thing continues to this day. If there was a way to put billions in the right pockets and increase government power by making tomatoes illegal then they would do it in a heartbeat. They have bigger fish to fry now like taking control of the internet like they've been trying to do.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:36   #103
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It's illegal to drive drunk and can get you jail time but if pot is legal then it's legal to smoke and drive.
Alcohol is legal, but its not legal to drink and drive, so why would it be legal to smoke and drive if marijuana was made legal?

I think there is something wrong with your brain.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:43   #104
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Oh yes they do. The Federal Leviathan regulates everything.


Here is just one.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s510/text
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:45   #105
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Anyone have a good memory? Remember a long long time ago when the govt started in on milk? Why would they make raw milk illegal if milk is legal? Now it is illegal to suck on a cows udder.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:46   #106
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Only thing "kinda silly" IMO is the fact that someone wouldn't be able to understand what's going on......except those who desire drugs over everything else.






Sorry my friend......but that's sort of a "silly" statement IMO. Just who gets to state which laws are and which laws aren't, eh?

Somewhere there will be someone who feels murder laws are "silly" ya know? Are we to allow them to disregard those laws because they feel that way? Not hardly me thinks.
So a group of old men looking out for their own interests decide every aspect of your life for you? I guarantee there are many laws you've broken either willingly or unknowingly (but unfortunately for you ignorance is no excuse) and you've not suffered the slightest inconvenience for it.

SOME laws are good but others, like being required to fire a gunshot whenever you cross an intersection, are just plain stupid. SOME laws are for our own good and some are for the good of the very few at our expense. I trust myself to decide which is which and I know you do the same.

Complete and total respect for "THE LAW!!!" whatever it may be is flat out retarded.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:50   #107
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Oh yes they do. The Federal Leviathan regulates everything.


Here is just one.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s510/text
Says nothing about regulation of personal growth and personal consumption.

The govt doesn't regulate your garden in your yard and they never will.

Regulations are for business purposes. If you sell your tomatoes to the public or export them, then sure they can regulate that.

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Old 11-01-2012, 14:56   #108
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Anyone have a good memory? Remember a long long time ago when the govt started in on milk? Why would they make raw milk illegal if milk is legal? Now it is illegal to suck on a cows udder.
Because they don't get their taxes from you if John down the road is buying his milk from you with cash. Just more fed interference.
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Old 11-01-2012, 14:58   #109
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Hands down stupidest debate in our country right now.

Anyone with a Reagan era mentality on weed is a fing moron. Period.

Only reason its still illegal is because the people in power still contain elements of the reefer madness generation. You know, the uneducated paranoid extreme right bible thumpers.

Same people that ruin the party.

Hey 50 and 60 yr olds, pull your head out of your old ass and get with it.

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I hate to tell the Bob Marley institute but they wasted their money. One of the chief arguments for legalizing drugs is that it would eliminate the other crimes associated with drugs.
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Old 11-01-2012, 15:07   #111
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Alcohol is legal, but its not legal to drink and drive, so why would it be legal to smoke and drive if marijuana was made legal?

I think there is something wrong with your brain.
I have to say, the very poor quality of the anti-legalization arguments doesn't boost their cause any.
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Old 11-01-2012, 15:07   #112
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The same reason they regulate making your own liquor (ie moonshine).

Assuming that it has no ill effects I don't care if it is legal or not. I would, however, put the same restrictions on it that are on alcohol (age minimum, can't drive while under the influence, etc).
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Says nothing about regulation of personal growth and personal consumption.

The govt doesn't regulate your garden in your yard and they never will.

Regulations are for business purposes. If you sell your tomatoes to the public or export them, then sure they can regulate that.

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Interesting perspective, it's similar to how I look at it. You can have a garden, with countless flowers, vegetables, herbs, etc...but if 1 of those plants that happens to sprout is a marijuana plant...you're now in the business of marijuana cultivation, and a criminal.
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I guarantee there are many laws you've broken either willingly or unknowingly (but unfortunately for you ignorance is no excuse) and you've not suffered the slightest inconvenience for it.
Here is one that MANY MANY MANY people in our state violate:

C.R.S. 42-4-711 (1) The driver of a motor vehicle traveling through defiles or canyons or on mountain highways shall hold such motor vehicle under control and as near to the right-hand edge of the highway as reasonably possible and, except when driving entirely to the right of the center of the roadway, shall give audible warning with the horn of such motor vehicle upon approaching any curve where the view is obstructed within a distance of two hundred feet along the highway.

I have never heard anyone honk their horn if they cant see 200 feet.
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Old 11-01-2012, 15:13   #115
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Says nothing about regulation of personal growth and personal consumption.

The govt doesn't regulate your garden in your yard and they never will.

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Really? You read the entire text of that law in 7 minutes. Impressive.

If I give my neighbor a couple of dollars for a bushel of tomatoes he grew in his back yard, he is now considered by the FDA to be a "very small business" and those regulations would apply.
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Public safety.....

As if they need a reason.

Point is, if you tolerate them seizing unconstitutional power in one place.....
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Alcohol is legal, but its not legal to drink and drive, so why would it be legal to smoke and drive if marijuana was made legal?

I think there is something wrong with your brain.
I have read articles from some of these pot advocates that say they can function fine unlike alcohol users. Sorry if your so anal that you live to pray on any post that don't 100% provide you with a Hooked On Phonics explanation. No is the answer to your next post asking me to provide a link. I don't have time to sit here and start reading on this ridiculous topic to provide you with proof of my post as I don't really care if you agree with me or not.
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Really? You read the entire text of that law in 7 minutes. Impressive.

If I give my neighbor a couple of dollars for a bushel of tomatoes he grew in his back yard, he is now considered by the FDA to be a "very small business" and those regulations would apply.
Right, money was exchanged. Avoid that and you're golden.

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Says nothing about regulation of personal growth and personal consumption.

The govt doesn't regulate your garden in your yard and they never will.

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So how about a half dozen pot plants in my garden for personal use.

You getting it yet?
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I have read articles from some of these pot advocates that say they can function fine unlike alcohol users. Sorry if your so anal that you live to pray on any post that don't 100% provide you with a Hooked On Phonics explanation. No is the answer to your next post asking me to provide a link. I don't have time to sit here and start reading on this ridiculous topic to provide you with proof of my post as I don't really care if you agree with me or not.
I read through your ramblings and still couldn't find the explanation of why driving stoned would suddenly become legal if marijuana was legalized.

Care to try again?
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Exchanging money is grounds for fed regulation?
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I read through your ramblings and still couldn't find the explanation of why driving stoned would suddenly become legal if marijuana was legalized.

Care to try again?
No, I don't care about internet cred

Don't take my post personal I just don't care about much, sorry.
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I have read articles from some of these pot advocates that say they can function fine unlike alcohol users. Sorry if your so anal that you live to pray on any post that don't 100% provide you with a Hooked On Phonics explanation. No is the answer to your next post asking me to provide a link. I don't have time to sit here and start reading on this ridiculous topic to provide you with proof of my post as I don't really care if you agree with me or not.
Actually many alcoholics feel they can drive fine while drunk. Then that tree jumps out in front of them...

Or mommy and her three kids come along in their minivan...

I just can't see the government allowing people to use MJ in instances where they cannot use alcohol. However, I would like it "spelled out" in law before I would vote to legalize it.

Personally I don't care. I don't use it and have no intention of using it.
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I just can't see the government allowing people to use MJ in instances where they cannot use alcohol. However, I would like it "spelled out" in law before I would vote to legalize it.
Agreed, if it's spelled out in B&W that's fine with me. I have 2 daughters and just worry 24/7 over them, I can't be there 24/7 like I wish I could.
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