Whitetail Sidearm - Page 4

Yankee2718 · 10-09-2012, 09:53

The G23 does carry easier than the G17. Still debating. The whole debate may prove to be a moot point if I can't find the time to go this year. I think I will though.

SCmasterblaster · 10-09-2012, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718

The G23 does carry easier than the G17. Still debating. The whole debate may prove to be a moot point if I can't find the time to go this year. I think I will though.

That's right. A G23 weighs several ounces less than a G17.

Kingarthurhk · 10-09-2012, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718

Have you seen what modern pistol bullets will withstand? XTP bullets are tough. The modern bonded bullets hold together well too. Deer are thin skinned game. I think it's Winchester that is making .223 ammo for deer now. A 9mm pistol bullet is plenty tough enough to penetrate to vital organs in the accepted performance window of the cartridge.

If a 9mm can punch through a windshield or car door and still make 12 inches in gel, I think it'll work on a deer with no armor.

So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?

Ruger .22 Pistol vs Car door - YouTube

Yankee2718 · 10-09-2012, 16:24

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So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?

Now you're just being ridiculous.

uz2bUSMC · 10-09-2012, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk

So I guess this means you'll be shooting deer with a .22 now?
Ruger .22 Pistol vs Car door - YouTube

Notice how he said it can go through a wind shield or car door (which you highlighted) AND penetrate 12" in gel?

Can you not read well or is it hard for you to keep things in perspective? Seems to be both.

Kingarthurhk · 10-09-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718

Now you're just being ridiculous.

Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?

SCmasterblaster · 10-09-2012, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk

Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?

Who said that? I suggested the 9mm for a finishing shot on a downed but still alive deer.

Yankee2718 · 10-09-2012, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk

Just like hunting a large game animal with a 9mm is normal?

The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.

And for the record, whitetail deer is considered medium, thin skinned game. But that's just semantics.

SCmasterblaster · 10-10-2012, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718

The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.

And for the record, whitetail deer is considered medium, thin skinned game. But that's just semantics.

Don't be too concerned - he is just being argumentative.

Kingarthurhk · 10-11-2012, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718

The entire point of this thread is not to use the 9mm as a primary firearm, but as a short range weapon. The ranges were stated early on. The 9mm is being utilized as a sidearm to a .30-06 rifle.

And for the record, whitetail deer is considered medium, thin skinned game. But that's just semantics.

It is semantics considering their pelt is thicker than human skin, and their bone structure is denser.

Kingarthurhk · 10-11-2012, 16:58

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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster

Don't be too concerned - he is just being argumentative.

No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.

Yankee2718 · 10-12-2012, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk

No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.

I think this would qualify as mall ninjaish if the thread was about using a 40 to kill a deer at 100 yards.

I think my deer equipment will be a Marlin 336 30-30 and the Glock 23.

SCmasterblaster · 10-12-2012, 13:55

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No, I am wondering how many of the mall ninjas really are hunters.

VT deer season is approaching for me. I deer hunt every year.

vafish · 10-12-2012, 15:34

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VT deer season is approaching for me. I deer hunt every year.

A friend of my dads deer hunted every year for over 30 years.

He never shot a deer, he went to deer camp for a week's vacation from his wife.

I kill between 2 and 5 deer every year. I use bow, crossbow, muzzle loader, shotgun, rifle, and handgun. I have no problem with close shots and a service caliber handgun.

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vafish · 10-12-2012, 15:36

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Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

Carrying a G17 would be a PITA. Too big so it will just get in the way. You really want to lug a full size Glock 17, with your bow and gear, while dragging a dead deer out of the woods?

.40S&W is a better caliber for woods walking and hunting. Personally I have a G27 and a Walther PPS in .40 that I use when out in the woods. The G23 should do you just fine.

I carry a g23 if I'm deer hunting or not. No more trouble to carry hunting than it is on any other day.

Oh and one of the properties I hunt is adjacent to a medium security prison.

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SCmasterblaster · 10-13-2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by vafish

I carry a g23 if I'm deer hunting or not. No more trouble to carry hunting than it is on any other day.

Oh and one of the properties I hunt is adjacent to a medium security prison.

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G23 is a great pistol!!!!

meatloaf samwich · 10-21-2012, 20:03

40 S&W +P 180 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 50

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Rev. ChadW · 10-22-2012, 10:07

I carry a Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt. I load it with a Remington 225 grain SWC.

SCmasterblaster · 10-22-2012, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

The loaded weight between the G17 and G23 is not much. The G23 is only an ounce lighter.

The PITA is the size. A full size service pistol needs to be carried on the hip, and it will just get in the way when your gutting and hauling. Compacts and subcompacts are just more comfortable to carry.

G17 Length 8.03" , height 5.43"

G23 Length 7.3", Height 5.00"

That makes good sense. Now I understand.

rustytxrx · 10-22-2012, 17:40

since 1995 or 1996??? I have taken one Texas whitetail doe with a 9mm, two with a .40.

I have taken two cull doe every year since '95 or 96' with two glock 20s. One gen 2 and one gen 3. I have just put a new 6" barrel on my gen 2 and got a new Wolf barrel for my gen 3 to shoot heavy lead cast bullets for big pigs

All shots were within 20 yds and all double lungs. I wait till I get the shot I want. the last thing I look at is the angle the wound channel will be.

I post ya pic of the glocks as soon as I figure the process out

rusty
Texas, I luv you

ps I know I ansered a question you didn't ask. If I was serious about deer hunting (and I am), I go with the Glock 20

lets see if I have this down yet

Boot Stomper · 10-22-2012, 17:55

I have killed a deer with a hangun and I will tell you it can be tricky. A deer's head is shaped like a football and the handgun round tends to travel around the skull. Now, I try not to use a handgun to kill a deer, but if you have to shoot them aim for the heart and/or lungs.

I originally tried shooting the deer in the head to preserve meat for the guy that had hit it with his car.

rustytxrx · 10-22-2012, 18:52

BTW I am not an expert on Glocks. I think the bottom g20 is a gen 2 but really not sure. I bought it in '95 or '96. ss# starts with BSFxxxx if that helps any. pretty sure the new one is a gen 3

rusty

Quick N Steady · 10-22-2012, 19:11

First, if you are going to shoot any size deer with a pistol it should be a neck or head shot. That does not leave room for a non-lethal placement. If you can't hit those spots you should not be taking the shot. Second, Glock 21 or 1911 with a .460 Rowland conversion. My personal whitetail pistol is a S&W 44 mag. The .460 Rowland is 44 mag ballistics out of a semi-auto frame.

uz2bUSMC · 10-22-2012, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Quick N Steady

First, if you are going to shoot any size deer with a pistol it should be a neck or head shot. That does not leave room for a non-lethal placement. If you can't hit those spots you should not be taking the shot. Second, Glock 21 or 1911 with a .460 Rowland conversion. My personal whitetail pistol is a S&W 44 mag. The .460 Rowland is 44 mag ballistics out of a semi-auto frame.

There's no need for a head or neck shot when a 10mm can give a complete pass through on a deer. 800+ ft lbs is plenty for normal harvesting of the animal.

Armchair Commando · 10-22-2012, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Quick N Steady

First, if you are going to shoot any size deer with a pistol it should be a neck or head shot. That does not leave room for a non-lethal placement. If you can't hit those spots you should not be taking the shot.

Please never give hunting advice again. You are very misinformed and have obviously never hunted deer before.

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