The Holy Bible is both historically and scientifically correct. - Page 2

Glock36shooter · 10-17-2012, 18:04

PEACE WARRIOR... I'M WAITING! You continue to run that mouth and back it up with nothing. Surely your magic book has the answers you need.

Glock36shooter · 10-17-2012, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Roering

By the way, it's not meant to be a science book.

Cheers.

That is for sure. Tell that to Peace Warrior who claims the Bible is scientifically accurate.

Booker · 10-17-2012, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

It's also translated as Cyrenius... c'mon try harder than that.

I honestly did not know that! One of the things that confuses us laypeople is all the "a.k.a.s" in the bible.

It seems that names are changed during translations.
Another issue I've had is the names of many of the places. Many don't exist anymore, other have had their borders changed over the years.

Now I don't take the printed word as totally true, but I also don't get overly excited when a date or place can not be pinpointed with precise accuracy.

I'm sure that if we asked Paul, "When were you born?" He most likely couldn't give us an exact date and surely wouldn't use the terms BC or AD.

I can't tell the date of my birth, I don't remember the event, I can only tell you what others have told me! LOL

So based on the very small amount of reading I've done on this point, I'd say you won this one!

***ArtificialGrape*** · 10-17-2012, 19:51

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Originally Posted by Animal Mother

Are you planning on having a discussion or will you be following past practice and simply declaring things true and refusing to consider or address any evidence to the contrary?

You're not still sour that he proved that it's "scientifically impossible" for stars to form by declaring it as fact are you?

-ArtificialGrape

***ArtificialGrape*** · 10-17-2012, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Roering

By the way, it's not meant to be a science book.

The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven, not how the heavens go. --Pope John Paul II

Gunhaver · 10-17-2012, 21:16

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Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape

The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven, not how the heavens go. --Pope John Paul II

In other words, "We're in the business of warm fuzzy feelings, not accurate information".

Glock36shooter · 10-17-2012, 21:23

This thread is not going well for Peace Warrior is it?

Sarge1400 · 10-17-2012, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

This thread is not going well for Peace Warrior is it?

Who?

Glock36shooter · 10-18-2012, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Sarge1400

Who?

I know, even the name is stupid. But you know... the person that ran their mouth, started this thread with baseless nonsense, called me a coward for not starting it myself, and then ran away with tail between legs once things got real. That guy.

You know it doesn't bother me when someone is stupid once. We all have bad days when we stick our foot in our mouth or say something we can't possibly back up. But there's like 4 believers that frequent this place that do it on a regular basis and it's the same things over and over again. I don't see how people like that remember to breath without help. They'll make a bold claim with zero basis, not back it up, get completely torn down, and bolt. Only to come back next week not only with the same nonsense but claiming that no one has ever proven them wrong. That level of willful ignorance amazes me.

I know a fella like that personally. And he's a super believer. We go round and round constantly. His issue is an amazingly gigantic ego and the self-deluded idea that nothing he says is wrong because HE said it. Not sure if that's what's happening here or not.

Glock36shooter · 10-18-2012, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Booker

I honestly did not know that! One of the things that confuses us laypeople is all the "a.k.a.s" in the bible.

It seems that names are changed during translations.
Another issue I've had is the names of many of the places. Many don't exist anymore, other have had their borders changed over the years.

Now I don't take the printed word as totally true, but I also don't get overly excited when a date or place can not be pinpointed with precise accuracy.

I'm sure that if we asked Paul, "When were you born?" He most likely couldn't give us an exact date and surely wouldn't use the terms BC or AD.

I can't tell the date of my birth, I don't remember the event, I can only tell you what others have told me! LOL

So based on the very small amount of reading I've done on this point, I'd say you won this one!

Please allow me to apologize to you. I was rude and blunt with you. I was in a bit of a froth at Peace Warrior and you just happened to get in my line of sight. I read your earlier comment and colored it with the same tone in which I was reading Peace Warriors. I shouldn't have done that. You were making a separate comment all together. So I'm sorry for being short with you.

muscogee · 10-18-2012, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

You know it doesn't bother me when someone is stupid once. We all have bad days when we stick our foot in our mouth or say something we can't possibly back up. But there's like 4 believers that frequent this place that do it on a regular basis and it's the same things over and over again. I don't see how people like that remember to breath without help. They'll make a bold claim with zero basis, not back it up, get completely torn down, and bolt. Only to come back next week not only with the same nonsense but claiming that no one has ever proven them wrong. That level of willful ignorance amazes me.

They're used to preaching to the choir which praises them for their insights. They can't grasp how their "insights" look to those not predisposed to agree with them. They don't understand your opposition so they repeat the same arguments over and over. Eventually what you're saying begins to get through. These people stop posting because they know the answers they're going to get. Some of them go on spiritual journeys and reevaluate what they know in light of what they have learned. Some of them come back, some of them don't. However, all of them are changed by what they learn here. It's difficult to accept that your worldview is incorrect.

AlexHassin · 10-18-2012, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Peace Warrior

THE RULE: Only ONE item, topic, subject and or theme at a time please.

Thanks.

that's where i stopped reading. i vote this is now a gif thered.

AlexHassin · 10-18-2012, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Animal Mother

Are you planning on having a discussion or will you be following past practice and simply declaring things true and refusing to consider or address any evidence to the contrary?

AlexHassin · 10-18-2012, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Geko45

And it's hard to be governor of Syria when you are busy fighting a war in Turkey.

Booker · 10-18-2012, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

Please allow me to apologize to you. I was rude and blunt with you. I was in a bit of a froth at Peace Warrior and you just happened to get in my line of sight. I read your earlier comment and colored it with the same tone in which I was reading Peace Warriors. I shouldn't have done that. You were making a separate comment all together. So I'm sorry for being short with you.

It's ok! I know that things get heated at times and I'm guilty of the same myself at times! Besides, when I signed up for the internet many moons ago, they gave me a thick-skin for free! LOL

***Peace Warrior*** · 10-18-2012, 23:27

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Originally Posted by muscogee

Silence rib.

Awwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhh........

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***Peace Warrior*** · 10-18-2012, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Animal Mother

Are you planning on having a discussion or will you be following past practice and simply declaring things true and refusing to consider or address any evidence to the contrary?

hey, you're still around! Hiya -am-.

Shouldn't you be making claims about plagiarism and or fantastical notions of pseudo-science backing up "your side" of the debate by now? Hey, better hurry, we are only in the first page of the thread. Even better, maybe you need to grab three or four quote from a different thread, on a different topic, and somehow interject hem into this thread so as to rearrange your complete misunderstanding of the current topic.

We will see.

I see you want to do a "Three post to one = none and a new topic. -LOL- not hardly slick.

***Peace Warrior*** · 10-18-2012, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

This thread is not going well for Peace Warrior is it?

I'm loving it! [/kramer-a la-seinfeld]

Animal Mother · 10-19-2012, 00:54

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Originally Posted by Peace Warrior

hey, you're still around! Hiya -am-.

I'm not the one who fled the previous discussions.

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Shouldn't you be making claims about plagiarism

Are you planning to commit plagiarism again?

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and or fantastical notions of pseudo-science backing up "your side" of the debate by now?

That would be your modus operandi, not mine, as the still unrevealed great secred of "Lucy's knee" demonstrates.

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Hey, better hurry, we are only in the first page of the thread. Even better, maybe you need to grab three or four quote from a different thread, on a different topic, and somehow interject hem into this thread so as to rearrange your complete misunderstanding of the current topic.

My misunderstanding? My understanding has never been the problem my dear proponent of nonsense and doubletalk. But insults aside, you didn't answer the question I asked, are you going to be addressing any of the problems with your claims?

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I see you want to do a "Three post to one = none and a new topic. -LOL- not hardly slick.

Not what I proposed at all, your misunderstanding problem is rearing its ugly head again already.

***Peace Warrior*** · 10-19-2012, 02:03

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Saber99 · 10-19-2012, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Peace Warrior

I'm loving it! [/kramer-a la-seinfeld]

I haven't posted or even logged in for months, I've always been more of an observer. Normally I'm perfectly content to just sit back and read the fascinating exchanges between highly informed individuals(AM,AG, Gecko ect...) and delusional nutjobs ( looking at you Peace warrior). I have yet to see you post in any thread where you didn't make your self look like a fool.

But this thread takes the cake.You are undeniably pathetic, YOU STARTED this thread and then don't even have the balls to respond when every other participant in this thread has presented well founded arguments against your claims.

No one's expecting you to prove them wrong, we all KNOW you can't. I doubt you could even find any religious members to support you in this thread, you're your own special brand of delusional and I'm not referring to just religious issues. But guess what you are accountable, you are going to be held to your claims. Provide a real argument or admit that you are wrong. Stop side stepping questions, stop threatening to take your ball and go home cause you don't like how others play. It's time to grow up peace warrior.

Respond to the challenges you ASKED to be posed to you, or admit you can't and concede. Either one would garner you more respect than this pathetic little game you seem so fond of playing.

michael_b · 10-19-2012, 11:07

Quirinius served as governor from 6-12 AD.

Herod Archelaus was banished around 6 AD after ruling over Judea & Samaria.

Herod the Great died around 4 BC.

Herod Antipas ruled from 4 BC on over Galilee.

That's a lot of Herods.

-On mobile

Guss · 10-19-2012, 11:26

Getting back on topic...
Daniel 4:11 speaks of a vision of a tree that grew so tall that it could be seen to the ends of the earth.
This might make sense if you think the world is flat, but it does not make sense if you view the world as a sphere.

Keyhole · 10-19-2012, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Saber99

I haven't posted or even logged in for months, I've always been more of an observer. Normally I'm perfectly content to just sit back and read the fascinating exchanges between highly informed individuals(AM,AG, Gecko ect...) and delusional nutjobs ( looking at you Peace warrior). I have yet to see you post in any thread where you didn't make your self look like a fool.

But this thread takes the cake.You are undeniably pathetic, YOU STARTED this thread and then don't even have the balls to respond when every other participant in this thread has presented well founded arguments against your claims.

No one's expecting you to prove them wrong, we all KNOW you can't. I doubt you could even find any religious members to support you in this thread, you're your own special brand of delusional and I'm not referring to just religious issues. But guess what you are accountable, you are going to be held to your claims. Provide a real argument or admit that you are wrong. Stop side stepping questions, stop threatening to take your ball and go home cause you don't like how others play. It's time to grow up peace warrior.

Respond to the challenges you ASKED to be posed to you, or admit you can't and concede. Either one would garner you more respect than this pathetic little game you seem so fond of playing.

Bravo!

Give it up Warrior. The days of voodoo, mysticism, zombies, and talking snakes are waning... Knowledge will prevail. Embrace science, nature, and the laws of the universe.

Glock36shooter · 10-19-2012, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Peace Warrior

I'm loving it! [/kramer-a la-seinfeld]

Being wrong? M'kay... to each his own. You have yet to refute a single one of the errors, contradictions, and outright lies in the bible. You just ran away hoping it'd all be forgotten when you came back.