[faawrenchbndr]

Originally Posted by fnfalman

Trolling? Am I the one that comes into threads that talk about budget optics and budget guns then rag on others about how these things aren't fit for "serious use" and "combat".

Trolling may be a bit harsh.......looking for an argument better?

We've butted heads for a while now......I've always considered
it in good fun. You have GREAT ideas, experiences, & I respect
most of what you say.

However, Mike is about the same, you to are very similar. Both
of you are completely correct, but both of you are seeing the
"other side of the coin"

To the both of you,.......just because someone has a differing opinion,
it does not mean they are arguing!

[cyphertext]

OK, let's get this budget optic thread back on track...

OP, my buddy has a Sightmark and he has not had good luck with it so far. No matter how much he adjusts the quick release, it does not stay tight on the rifle. Tighten it down, shoot a magazine, tighten it down again. It also seems to be canted when mounted on his rifle.

To be fair though, his Sightmark was not new in box. It was a takeoff from a rifle sold to a pawnshop. Pawnshop owner didn't think that it added any value to the rifle, so he offered it to my friend for cheap.

[cyphertext]

Originally Posted by LL6

Just checking in to inform that I will be putting a Bushnell TRS25 on my new piston CMMG so I guess that gets me at least two strikes.

I like the Bushnell TRS25. I put one on my son's M&P 15-22. I think it is "as good as" my Millet Multidot-sp that rides on my rifle. Can I say that?

I think an EOTech is in my future, but today I run a budget optic just to see if I even like red dots. The Millet was the first red dot I have used. Figured for less than $100 give it a try...if I didn't like it, it could go on a .22 for a fun, plinking gun. Kids like them, and don't know the difference.

[LL6]

Originally Posted by cyphertext

I like the Bushnell TRS25. I put one on my son's M&P 15-22. I think it is "as good as" my Millet Multidot-sp that rides on my rifle. Can I say that?

Don't know if the forum censors will let that fly.

Originally Posted by cyphertext

I think an EOTech is in my future, but today I run a budget optic just to see if I even like red dots. The Millet was the first red dot I have used. Figured for less than $100 give it a try...if I didn't like it, it could go on a .22 for a fun, plinking gun. Kids like them, and don't know the difference.

This is my first foray into black rifles with optics so I'm kind of like you. If the situation or my desires go past something like the TRS25 then I will cross that bridge when I get there.

[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

Trolling may be a bit harsh.......looking for an argument better?

We've butted heads for a while now......I've always considered
it in good fun. You have GREAT ideas, experiences, & I respect
most of what you say.

However, Mike is about the same, you to are very similar. Both
of you are completely correct, but both of you are seeing the
"other side of the coin"

To the both of you,.......just because someone has a differing opinion,
it does not mean they are arguing!

I welcome differing opinion. Opinion and fact are two different things however.

[mjkeat]

Originally Posted by LL6

This is my first foray into black rifles with optics so I'm kind of like you. If the situation or my desires go past something like the TRS25 then I will cross that bridge when I get there.

If you're not ready when you get to that bridge it'll be to late. Best case scenario you'll be stuck at the range w/ a non functioning optic.

[faawrenchbndr]

Originally Posted by mjkeat

I welcome differing opinion. Opinion and fact are two different things however.

I completely understand & agree 100% Mike.
Sometime be best learn from our failures & mistaken choices.
Pay once, cry once........I bought my CompM2 when I was active,
it has to have 10k+ rounds fired while mounted, never a hiccup!

[NeverMore1701]

The way I see it, if I'm going to bet my life on a piece of equipment, I'll get quality stuff, even if it's expensive. If it's a toy, I'll set a budget and get the best I can within that constraint. For me, a $99 micro dot would be fine on my .22 plinker/pest control pistol, but I'd go with an RMR if I was setting up a pimped out Sig/FN/Glock for defense.

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

Trolling may be a bit harsh.......looking for an argument better?

We've butted heads for a while now......I've always considered
it in good fun. You have GREAT ideas, experiences, & I respect
most of what you say.

However, Mike is about the same, you to are very similar. Both
of you are completely correct, but both of you are seeing the
"other side of the coin"

To the both of you,.......just because someone has a differing opinion,
it does not mean they are arguing!

I've never come into a thread that talks about combat training or high quality guns/optics combo and tell people that it's worthless or whatever.

I only respond to postings in these types of threads against those combat commando types who think that everything is about "serious use" and "combat".

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by mjkeat

Nobody is questioning his service. I don't think anyone here would do so. FNFAL has shared his military experience and it was discussed.

I know it can be hard to follow w/ all the back and forth but that is the main cause of the argument here. People go on about things they think they know. Then when someone sets the record straight, boom, the circus begins.

What does my combat record or combat training have to do in a thread about budget optics and zombie rifles?

What does YOUR combat record or training have to do with a thread about budget optics and zombie rifles? Unless you think that zombies are real...

[LL6]

Originally Posted by NeverMore1701

The way I see it, if I'm going to bet my life on a piece of equipment, I'll get quality stuff, even if it's expensive. If it's a toy, I'll set a budget and get the best I can within that constraint. For me, a $99 micro dot would be fine on my .22 plinker/pest control pistol, but I'd go with an RMR if I was setting up a pimped out Sig/FN/Glock for defense.

Dude you are so limiting yourself when you can mount a Swarovski Z6i-6x24. I found one discounted to the bargain price of $2399. I'm sure you can budget one in. I mean what if you bumped into Bill Gates at your next carbine class and he saw you with just an Aimpoint or EOtech? He might think you brought your plinker to class.